| kvonbehren |
01-17-2018 02:36 PM |
Oil Cooler line routing for 460
This is probably a stupid question but here goes. I have a Superformance Mark 111 that came with an oil cooler that was not connected. I'm installing a new motor and need to know the correct routing for the lines going to the oil cooler and remote oil filter. My thought is to run the line from the block adaptor to the cooler and then to the remote filter housing before going back to the motor adaptor. Thank you
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| Morris |
01-17-2018 06:39 PM |
Always go to the filter 1st......then to the cooler.....then back to the block....
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| Gaz64 |
01-17-2018 08:52 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morris
(Post 1436616)
Always go to the filter 1st......then to the cooler.....then back to the block....
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Same here.
Your oil filter is there to protect everything after it.
Flush any lines, the cooler, etc before final assembly.
Any foreign particle after the filter goes straight into your bearings.
Gary |
| keezling |
01-18-2018 11:19 AM |
If I may, unless you race or live in the desert you really don't need a cooler. My 460 is cold blooded here in Oregon to the point I added a oil heater for pre warming the oil. Only in a stop and go summer car cruise will I see temps around 200 degrees which isn't a problem. On a cool day it runs below 150, and takes 8-10 miles to show any reading on the gage.
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| cycleguy55 |
01-18-2018 02:45 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by keezling
(Post 1436680)
If I may, unless you race or live in the desert you really don't need a cooler. My 460 is cold blooded here in Oregon to the point I added a oil heater for pre warming the oil. Only in a stop and go summer car cruise will I see temps around 200 degrees which isn't a problem. On a cool day it runs below 150, and takes 8-10 miles to show any reading on the gage.
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Agreed. I don't have an oil cooler in mine. I'm running an 11 quart road racing oil pan with kickouts and it takes a LONG time for the oil to get up over 200°F - typically 20+ minutes (10 minutes highway / 10+ minutes stop-and-go traffic) at an ambient temperature of 70°-80°F. On days in the 80°-90F range it will get to 220°F and on a few rare occasions it will get to 230°F. None of these temperatures warrant an oil cooler, even with dino oil - even less of an issue with synthetic.
This is all with a 180°F thermostat and electric fan that keep coolant temperatures in the 195°-210°F range.
Make sure you install an oil thermostat if you decide to hook up that oil cooler. Oil that's too cool is bad, very bad. |
| kvonbehren |
01-18-2018 04:28 PM |
It sounds like maybe I don't need the cooler. When I bought this car I assumed the cooler was hooked up but when I pulled the motor I found out it wasn't. The motor that's going in this car is over 700hp. Does that make a difference. I live in Ohio where the summer temps are typically 80's and some occasional 90's.
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| Dominik |
01-18-2018 11:41 PM |
I had an oil cooler on a 496 in Germany where my cruising speed was 80 mph (3.300 rpm), with accasional bursts to 160 mph. But mostly mountain trips with 80 mph, max.
I taped the cooler off and never removed the tape in 7 years! Even in 100°F heat (when I rarely drove the car). It had no thermostat.
You probably only need an oil cooler when you operate your motor beyond 4.500 rpm most of the time.
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| Gaz64 |
01-19-2018 12:57 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by kvonbehren
(Post 1436696)
It sounds like maybe I don't need the cooler. When I bought this car I assumed the cooler was hooked up but when I pulled the motor I found out it wasn't. The motor that's going in this car is over 700hp. Does that make a difference. I live in Ohio where the summer temps are typically 80's and some occasional 90's.
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I would run a cooler with a thermostat.
Plus an accusump. |
| Trubble |
01-19-2018 08:54 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominik
(Post 1436709)
I had an oil cooler on a 496 in Germany where my cruising speed was 80 mph (3.300 rpm), with accasional bursts to 160 mph. But mostly mountain trips with 80 mph, max.
I taped the cooler off and never removed the tape in 7 years! Even in 100°F heat (when I rarely drove the car). It had no thermostat.
You probably only need an oil cooler when you operate your motor beyond 4.500 rpm most of the time.
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What kind of max oil temps have you seen? I have an oil cooler in my 514 BBF, and with mostly moderate Midwest USA temps I am concerned about "too cool" oil temps.....
Bill |
| kvonbehren |
01-19-2018 09:22 AM |
Excellent. Thanks for the help. I have a Canton pan with kick outs so I think I'll run it without the cooler and watch the oil temp closely.
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