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Jeff Frigo 09-05-2011 01:27 AM

To be honest, there will not be alot of demand for them in my opinion.

Tom Wells 09-05-2011 06:32 AM

Ron,

Almost forgot!

Edelbrock now has the Torker with EFI bungs already in: Edelbrock 50665 - Edelbrock Victor EFI Intake Manifolds - Overview - SummitRacing.com

Don't pay any attention to the Victor label. It's actually a Torker II :LOL:

As to scaring yourself, carb should be fine. EFI is for those of us who don't know how to tune one LOL My 557 powered 81 Zephyr wagon has a carb....

Seriously, EFI works for me for road racing. Seems to help prevent fuel starvation on turns/acceleration/braking.

As soon as the wagon gets a roll bar I'll try the carb on a road race track just for grins!

Tom

PS: That picture is 27K miles ago. It's in need of some serious cleanup now, but I don't seem to be able to stop driving it long enough to do that.

mdross1 10-08-2011 06:31 AM

At first looked into a Cammer (wow big dollars) then Boss (another wow) then FE (was talked out of it) old technology.
Built a .030 over 460 blueprinted,balanced
Aluminum heads, ported polished
Lunati flat tappet,roller rockers
Edlebrock Performer port matched
Davinci 1000cfm Holley dbl pmp
Malloy Unilite
Aluminum flywheel
11" Diaphram clutch balanced with flywheel.
525hp enough torque to rotate the earth.
Our car has Tremec TKO,Strange aluminum center section with 3:73 gear.Coil-overs all around,Chrome moly all adjustable suspension,scaled with 12" Wilwood Ultralites and dual masters.Car was setup to road race.For us it was big block or nothing,love the Wow factor when opening the hood for people.

Silverback51 10-08-2011 07:39 AM

I'm always amazed that people always go crazy when they see a cammer in a Cobra. Generally these are the same people that condem those of us that when with a 460. Nobody seems to care about the weight if it's a cammer or boss motor.

AL427SBF 10-08-2011 08:22 AM

If you are going after the "cobra market" as you say, then stick with the cobra footprint and use performance proven parts -

427 CID
Aluminum block
Aluminum heads
Forged pistons
Willey's Race 4bbl

Basic motor, easy to maintain and tune, go like a bat out of hell, be honest to the 427 fender emblems.

CarsByCarl 10-08-2011 09:59 AM

Ya know, I hear a lot of talk about the need for a lightweight engine or the BBF being too heavy, but these cars are tailhappy to begin with. One of my customers reported back a 50/50 balance with an iron headed 460. :confused:

I have toyed with the idea of doing a destroked long rod engine based on the 429 that would achive a true 427 cubic inches, but is anyone really going to be interested when it costs the same to build a 501-557 cubic inch engine and that looks exactly the same?

mdross1 11-15-2011 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverback51 (Post 1155338)
I'm always amazed that people always go crazy when they see a cammer in a Cobra. Generally these are the same people that condem those of us that when with a 460. Nobody seems to care about the weight if it's a cammer or boss motor.

A Cammer in a Cobra it sure floats my boat,just too expensive.Having a big block in a 427 car is the only way I ever considered going.Always enjoy the Wow's! when lifting the hood.For me the need to have the big block grunt at any speed at that time was my only focus.Todays engine parts will make the small blocks some stout but that same tecnology works on the big blocks.Built my car 93/94 still amazes me it is sitting in the shop,by far one of my best projects for the total satisfaction feeling.

FUNFER2 11-15-2011 01:41 PM

I'm with you all the way buddy. Love to have a cammer, but too expensive.

I will never have anything but a FE in my cobra. I started out with a 428FE and now we're building a side oiler. Genesis block, 527 cubes, big mechanical roller cam, aluminum heads etc,..... Can't wait,.....to hear & feel this motor !

When you said it's still amazing that it sits in the shop, and you have total satisfaction feeling. Me too. ;)

I have a bad physical health issue, and even when I feel really bad, I sit in the car and just make bad ass engine sounds. It always makes me feel better, at least mentally. :3DSMILE:

66cobra1 11-15-2011 07:04 PM

605 cubes, 800 lift roller, on pump gas, Blue Thunder Heads, Elimenator Ultra Block

fordracing65 11-15-2011 09:29 PM

If you want power the 460 stroked cant be beat, its not too pricey and the cubic inch these motors can go to is awesome.

mdross1 12-15-2011 04:53 PM

Up until last year was seriously considering stroking the 460 into well over 500 cubes.Instead picked up a 580hp 406" small block Boss Hoss V8 motorcycle.Wow! you talk about accelleration G force.This winter putting together an all aluminum Donovan 427" NASCA SB2 top end small block Chev shooting for 800+hp, this same bike has a Progressive controlled Nos system as well.The Cobra is parked beside the bike lift table,just for inspiration.

D-CEL 12-16-2011 07:52 AM

Earlier in this thread someone was talking about weights, so here is some data based on actual results posted on BIG BLOCK FORD'S.
Factory iron blocks run from 205lbs (4.440 bore D0VE) up to 229lbs (4.36 bore D9TE-AB) The A460 (Ford Motorsports) block, un-machined is 302lbs but drops to 255lbs with a 4.625 bore.
My new un-machined A-96 block (aluminum with billet caps and 2.750mains) comes in at 160lbs. I expect it to drop to about 130 lbs when bored to 4.600.
I question the statement that a complete, all iron FE at 500lbs. I read on FORD FE.COM that a complete iron 390 comes in at 610lbs. Alum heads,intake,water pump got it down to 520lbs

Jason
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mdross1 12-16-2011 08:10 AM

An iron FE at 500lbs considering what the intake alone weighs that is hard to swallow.At one time I wanted to build an aluminum 460,still may someday.For now quite happy the way the iron block aluminum topend is working out.


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