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patrickt 11-24-2010 08:48 AM

I'll say!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul F (Post 1091664)
Grumpy old men.....

I'm with you, Paul. That Chas needs to get a life....:LOL:

Jerry Clayton 11-24-2010 08:57 AM

Sooooo Patrick

what kind of locknuts are on your engine mounts? or bell housing????

patrickt 11-24-2010 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton (Post 1091668)
Sooooo Patrick

what kind of locknuts are on your engine mounts? or bell housing????

None, on either.

Jerry Clayton 11-24-2010 09:11 AM

you need to correct the washers on the bolts in your pressure plate and also why aren't you using the dowel pins for where the pp joins the flywheel??

And your quick jacks

Three Peaks 11-24-2010 09:17 AM

Okay, so what is everyone using is places where you use a bolt threaded into a threaded hub where obviously a lock nut can't be used? A belleville washer?

patrickt 11-24-2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton (Post 1091671)
you need to correct the washers on the bolts in your pressure plate and also why aren't you using the dowel pins for where the pp joins the flywheel??

And your quick jacks

My overpriced Centerforce aluminum flywheel had no dowels -- loctited ARP shouldered bolts though. I do use the split lock washers on the starter motor and, as you can see from the photo, I have to retighten them ever few months.

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...starter001.jpg

ERA Chas 11-24-2010 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1091666)
I'm with you, Paul. That Chas needs to get a life....:LOL:

Eleven thousand eight hundred and ninety five posts and I need to get a life?

So Paul, we relics should be eternally grateful that our boy here relentlessly educates whippersnappers like you?

patrickt 11-24-2010 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton (Post 1091671)
And your quick jacks

Surely you're not suggesting that the QJ nuts should go inward?

RodKnock 11-24-2010 10:53 AM

Two pages so far on lock washers? :confused:

What is this world coming to? **) :p

rodneym 11-24-2010 11:07 AM

Look, let's just safety wire it, spot weld the lock washer under a nylon locking nut, JB Weld a small square of mirror on it and place an energy efficient spotlight on it. Simple.

elmariachi 11-24-2010 11:14 AM

This thread needs some "Threadlocker," and I ain't talking the stuff in the red tube.:LOL:

rodneym 11-24-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by elmariachi (Post 1091691)
This thread needs some "Threadlocker," and I ain't talking the stuff in the red tube.:LOL:

:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:

We're an irrepressible bunch, ain't we?

Jac Mac 11-24-2010 12:22 PM

Try your local hardware shops for a product called 'Nordlock', two piece 'ramped' & 'serrated' washer, only good for RH threads, works great on headers, manifolds, bell housings. Needs a couple of rechecks when used in alloy applications as serrations tend to 'bite' into the softer alloy.... might be just what you need on those 'FE' intakes to keep the bolt clamp pressure up.

ERA Chas 11-24-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jac Mac (Post 1091699)
Try your local hardware shops for a product called 'Nordlock', two piece 'ramped' & 'serrated' washer, only good for RH threads, works great on headers, manifolds, bell housings.

Thanks Jac for something constructive out of this.;)

RodKnock 11-24-2010 12:44 PM

I'm betting I'll get slammed for this, but is this option?

http://www.stage8.com/

patrickt 11-24-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1091707)
I'm betting I'll get slammed for this, but is this option?

http://www.stage8.com/

I've never used them -- but the guys on the PowerBlock, Stacey David's shows, Truck U, etc., speak highly of them. But, they could be paid to do that, I don't know.:confused:

Ant 11-24-2010 01:31 PM

Lock Washers are useless!
 
Found this information
Quote US Navy:
Naval Ships' Technical Manual, Chapter 75:
"Although lockwashers may be encountered, using the flat washers with selflocking nuts, self-locking fasteners, self-locking inserts, or thread sealants such as MIL-S-22473 anaerobic compounds is preferable.

A flat washer is used for many purposes, some proper and some not. The two most common proper purposes are:
1. To distribute the pressure of the nut or bolt evenly over the part being secured, reducing the chance of damage thereto, and
2. To provide a smooth surface for the nut or bolt to bear on, making it less likely to loosen as a result of an uneven fastening surface.

Bottom line use flatwashers and if not sure or the part is inaccessible use the correct thread lock and as mentioned Loctite Blue or medium strength is generally sufficient for general automotive applications, if you want to get it apart. For the newcomer Dont use Loctite 262 on your knock off wheel threads or any thread lock for that matter as the larger the thread the worse the problem can become to undo!

Paul F 11-24-2010 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ERA Chas (Post 1091677)
Eleven thousand eight hundred and ninety five posts and I need to get a life?

So Paul, we relics should be eternally grateful that our boy here relentlessly educates whippersnappers like you?


Chas,

You can do as you like with Patrick. He doesn't seem to mind.

patrickt 11-24-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul F (Post 1091725)
You can do as you like with Patrick. He doesn't seem to mind.

Patrick wears his heart on his sleeve. The cruel, caustic commentaries by Chas cuts him to the quick.:(

ERA Chas 11-24-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul F (Post 1091725)
Chas,

You can do as you like with Patrick. He doesn't seem to mind.

Sigh.... You are correct-it only glorifies him more.:CRY:

But every hamlet needs it's Village Idiot. (Wish we had a VI smiley guy).


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