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computerworks 02-13-2011 06:08 AM

555 at Summit Point


lovehamr 02-13-2011 06:35 AM

Hastings is it then?

computerworks 02-13-2011 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovehamr (Post 1109635)
Hastings is it then?

...indeed.

TXBLU 02-13-2011 06:56 AM

Just to elaborate on my previous comment about whether a Merlin V-12 would fit in a Cobra (No), the Merlin 61 (as used in the P-51) is over 7 feet long, over 2 1/2 feet wide, and just over 3 feet tall with a weight of over 1600 pounds (dry). Still, 1500+ horsepower (on 100 octane avgas) is nothing to sneeze at!

Eric

Buzz 02-13-2011 10:23 AM

Craig, I remember seeing pics of that car a while back, but to hear it running is something else. Incredible!

James - I don't think so. They are from an illustration by Lance Russwurm that I used to post in the Kirkham Flip Top thread; and they served as the inspiration for my sketches. The "Milk 'n' Honey" moniker came from the nickname sticker on the first P-51 model I built when I was about 12.

Jamo and 'Werks - that 555 car has the P-51 stuff goin' on all right, but it definitely needs a set of guns to compete with the West Coast fellas' track dog! :LOL:

Le Mons - I love it!! :3DSMILE:

Jamo 02-13-2011 12:02 PM

Did I mention that besides being gunless, the east coasters only have...chuckle...4 cylinders in 555? It's a cute little thing. :p

Jorge Anderson will be hosting the battle to the death next year.

Here's how 556 "suggests" lines for other entrants...



Da guns...

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d.../IMG_00661.jpg

Cashburn 02-13-2011 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 1109542)
Any pics Cashburn? I would love to see them.

I'll check out the invasion stripes.

Some pics, not the best but the cars feature Vapor Silver paint and an olive stripe. Interior has Moal Bomber gauges etc.

http://www.vintage-motorsports.com/a.../aah.sized.jpg

http://www.vintage-motorsports.com/a.../aam.sized.jpg

http://www.vintage-motorsports.com/a.../aao.sized.jpg

http://www.vintage-motorsports.com/a.../aat.sized.jpg

http://www.vintage-motorsports.com/a.../abe.sized.jpg

computerworks 02-13-2011 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamo (Post 1109678)
...chuckle...4 cylinders in 555? It's a cute little thing. :p

Yeah...cute

Car 555 Finished 34th ...ran for 260 laps
Car 556 Finished 137th ...ran for 89 laps

;)

Jamo 02-13-2011 12:46 PM

555...bought LeMons-ready, all sorted out. Four plugs changed. BFD

556...built and run with less than 2 miles on it. Blown engine rebuilt at the track, on the pavement. There was a helluv'a crosswind too.

67FEfastback 02-13-2011 01:27 PM

Interesting concept, V-12 would be interesting.

There is a mustang that someone put a V-12 from an aston martin;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLo8O1YuUsw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7vOL...eature=related

Might be an interesting marriage, putting a british powerplant in it.

charles roybal 02-13-2011 01:32 PM

Kind of reminds me of Jeff Millers car. My 2 cents would to have hood scop like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y15EVerlTY

xlr8or 02-13-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkb289 (Post 1109557)
Jamo ... I see the UN flag is upside down ... is that a distress signal ? ;)

Surprised you did not have to wear a blue helmet for those laps ... nice guns !

Um.. you should have seen DNC flag that was behind it. :LOL:

B.M.B.C 02-13-2011 03:26 PM

How about the Ryan Falconner V12 engine?? I'm sure he had some connection with Shelby and Cobras back in the 60s!! Also I heard his V12 engine is used in scale down Mustang P51 replicas!!!

B.M.B.C 02-13-2011 03:44 PM

Falconer V12 600ci 800hp length 38'' width 23.5'' high 32''. Can anyone confirm if it would fit into a Kirkham engine bay?

Excaliber 02-13-2011 05:32 PM

Quote:

555...bought LeMons-ready, all sorted out. Four plugs changed. BFD

556...built and run with less than 2 miles on it.
That reminds of the "pen" vs the "guy who built it" Cobra discussions you used to see around here.

OK, I won't go there. :)

Buzz 02-13-2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.M.B.C (Post 1109700)
How about the Ryan Falconner V12 engine?? I'm sure he had some connection with Shelby and Cobras back in the 60s!! Also I heard his V12 engine is used in scale down Mustang P51 replicas!!!

I thought about the Falconer V12. Are they still in production?

Buzz 02-13-2011 08:56 PM

Apparently they are - $65K a pop. Sure would look good in a P-51 Cobra though.

http://www.falconerengines.com/image...fre_splash.jpg

Engine Type - Aluminum 90 degree V-12
Displacement - 601 CID
Horsepower - 640 HP @ 4500 RPM
Torque - 700+ ft./lb. @ 4000 RPM
Compression Ratio - 10.9:1
Bore - 4.125 in.
Stroke - 3.750 in.
Heads - Cast aluminum with splayed valve design
Cylinders - Steel sleeved
Length - 55.5 in.
Width - 24.25 in.
Weight - 980 lb. (firewall forward, includes accessories,
batteries, gear reduction unit, hoses, propeller, etc.)

*13* 02-13-2011 09:24 PM

Would be an awesome project! Need the le mans"ish" style top & as much aero work as can be done w/o ruining the lines. Put some gears in it & see if they can get it comfortably into the 200's.

Rwillia4 02-14-2011 01:55 AM

How about the VW W12 powerplant, same one used in the 1000HP Bugatti.

Buzz 02-14-2011 07:10 AM

There's also the Ford Indigo V-12 from the 1996 concept car of the same name. Probably only the one exists though. Closest thing to a Ford would probably be a Jag or Aston V-12. At least there would be a connection. Plus the real P-51 did have a Brit-sourced powerplant...

http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...Concept-06.jpg


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