Club Cobra - Bill & Ernie Elliot 1965 Cobra Roadster $160k

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Ha! I gotcha. I should have read the whole description myself. I even made a double post to get my point across :). Yes, I agree with dealers and their false descriptions. I had a realtor sell my house once with a fireplace, sun room and a sewer hook up. I didn't have any of those things! Just amazing sometimes! Regards, Matt

Matt, It sure would be nice if people knew what they were talking about or didn't just plain lie!!! Mark

Bottom line is, it is a fiberglass body replica. No door straps and sway bars.

Overpriced?

Yes, by about 100K!

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Originally Posted by cdnus (Post 1160106)

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Originally Posted by SunDude (Post 1159978)

Oops, my mistake. I misread the description. Have never seen a fiberglass body mounted on a tube frame before, just like the original ally-bodied cars were, which was the source of my confusion.

Really???:confused::confused::confused:

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I was referring to these photos, showing the hood and door skins mounted on tubes just the original ally cars.

http://www.autodealerpoint.com/adp/d...132608-026.JPG

http://www.autodealerpoint.com/adp/d...132608-035.JPG

ELLIOTT engine is available

I have not read this entire post, but I do have the last Ernie Elliott motor that was contracted for the Bill Elliott Shelby Cobra. This program was done by Bill Andrews in Freeport NY. I do not know if this car is an original in the series.
10 cars contracted, 5-6 built, they are real if they have the CSX numbers and a Elliott Plaque.
I purchased the motor from Bill Andrews and Ernie, and had it shipped to NY. I needed a spare for my historic 1996 Bill Elliott cup car. If anyone is interested in this motor, 0 Miles, all papers, dyno etc. I would consider offers over $20,000
This is one of Ernie Elliott's last Ford Motors before he went to Dodge.
It is the real deal, and I can have the Elliott family verify this!

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Originally Posted by FIA-ERA (Post 1159913)

It's a great looking car, BUT... This dealership does have some really great looking cars. I remember one 67 GT500 they advertised a while back for some insane price. Well, I saw that car being restored locally. While not to bad of a resto job, it looked absolutely incredible online! It was not as spotless as it was online. If you saw what kinda surgery this car went through too, you would have never paid what they wanted either!

I like the Nascar/ Bill Elliott theme. Being a Ga. native and also a former as a Nascar mechanic, I like it. BUT, I've been to Ernie's shop and seen these motors just laying around like a crop of mushrooms. The last time I was up there he had over 65 complete Dodge motors from a Nascar team that had just folded. Now if I could figure out how to shove one of those motors in a Cobra, GEEZ! Anyway, the point is these motors are a dime a dozen and are probably built with left over parts from the day. Not bad stuff but also nothing new like the Dodge motors or current Ford stuff. Also, with a drive sump motor we would ALWAYS take the front belt off and prelub the motor BEFORE starting. I didn't notice an accusump system (maybe I missed it). Those motors can actually wipe lobes and bearings out when trying to start with out the oil in the pan! It's a long way for the oil to come from all the way in the trunk. I agree too, these motors won't last you 10K miles either. It's even got a Jerico tranny. Now, that's pretty slick but again on the street it wouldn't last long. You really need to have oil coolers/ with pumps on those boxes to keep them from blowing up too. Ernie has an incredible shop with a huge parts dept. It's been a long time since these motors were in there hey day! It's cool but I'd rather have one of Cashburn's Cobra's with the Coyote motor!! Regards, Matt

You are so right, you also need to heat the oil before you build pressure, those things are very much like F1 and Indy car in terms of clearances, do it wrong and you ruin your engine. Ernie was never in the same league as Robert Yates or even Roush when they were all building separately. He got his reputation from the time they were running Clevelands in the narrow T-birds that had a leg up on everybody as did Bill, on an even playing field they weren't that good. I would highly doubt 860 on a calibrated dyno and yes, you can bet there are no really up to date parts in that engine. I saw one of the used Yates Pre FR9 Ford engines on a dyno a couple of months ago it it was around 830 with a cam you could not drive on the street.

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With the engine rules NASCAR has in place,one is limited on what can be done with the cam/heads, without NASCAR rules these engines are very capable of a lot more power...900+hp is easy......
With that said, a guy here bought on older Roush engine,supposedly rebuilt with only dyno time on it,put it in a road race Mustang and is he is very disappointed with it.....Doesn't want to idle at anything less than 1500 rpms, and doesn't want to run under any load at less than 2500 rpms without bucking and spitting....these engines are built to run in the 5500 to 9000 rpm range, anything else, they just don't work very well......
David

NASCA motor parts are very easy to find.I'm just about ready to start assembling an SB2 427" using an aluminum Donovan block.Building a motor like this you need to focus on everything taking nothing for granted,all clearances have to be on the money call it blueprinting for short.This motor is not for the Cobra the 460 is all this car needs.

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but it appears a Bill Elliott Cobra is for sale at a Fiat / Chrysler / Jeep dealer in Thornhill, Ontario for $75K + taxes (Canadian $$). At current exchange rates that's just over US$60K (plus taxes, of course).

1965 Ford Shelby One of a kind! Original Bill Elliott #0 collector Edition! 860 hp! SIGNED! Must see convertible Red | NORTH YORK CHRYSLER JEEP DODGE RAM FIAT - NEW CAR | Wheels.ca

As you click through the photos in the ad you'll get photos of some BMW interspersed with the Cobra photos. Basic stuff they can't get right - sure leaves an impression about their attention to detail...

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Originally Posted by FIA-ERA (Post 1159913)

I agree probably built from used stuff, in addition to priming you have to preheat the oil prior to firing if it is a true nascar spec engine. Valve springs have to be changed on a regular basis too especially if you turn it hard.

Having seen some of Elliots stuff dynoed doubt the 860 hp number too.