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ACademic 10-18-2012 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by just dreamin (Post 1215636)
...found that the two front rims are marked on the inside, caused by the brake calipers being too big. This has left scratches in a area about two ins wide. They are about 1/16 in deep but one is a little deeper.
Visions of magnesium-induced sparks showering from the front wheel wells fills my head. :eek:

RodKnock 10-18-2012 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by just dreamin (Post 1215636)
Not so good news from this end. I cleaned off the brake dust and grime etc and found that the two front rims are marked on the inside, caused by the brake calipers being too big. This has left scratches in a area about two ins wide. They are about 1/16 in deep but one is a little deeper. I imagine that would pour cold water on the subject. The rears have no such marks and are very good. Photos if still wanted will mean I have to work out how to post.
If you want to sell them, then clean them up and take a bunch of pics. You can post the pics here for everyone to see and/or send them to me as well.

just dreamin 10-18-2012 08:29 PM
Will organise pictures over this w/end, its pm friday here in Oz now. Thanks for the interest. John.

REAL 1 10-18-2012 09:08 PM
Are they original magnesium or alloy?

just dreamin 10-20-2012 05:02 AM
Pictures hopefully

just dreamin 10-20-2012 05:44 AM
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Pictures hopefully, I am told I can only upload 5 files per post

ERA Chas 10-20-2012 06:48 AM
Could you provide better pics of the damaged areas of the fronts? -Like close-ups or high-lighted areas?

just dreamin 10-20-2012 08:41 AM
Having a problem, the manage atachments box tells me the upload failed? Maybe the site wont let me exceed this 5 pictures limit :confused:Time here is 1.00 am Sunday and I need to go to bed, hope I can do it in the morning.

ERA Chas 10-20-2012 10:00 AM
Caution-no where in this thread does "just dreamin' state that these are magnesium Halibrands. He just describes the markings on them which I think are also on aftermarket non-Halibrand wheels.
To my eye they are either Trigo or PS aluminums. To wit:
The centers look like the 'standard' gray powder finish.
The valve stems are in the webs, not the outer rim area.
The shoulders of the rims may be different.
The brighter finish looks like aluminum that has dulled over time.
These are mine-from the Halibrand factory circa 1991. The centers are natural as cast which has turned from heat and is clear coated with acrylic-not powder.Rims are polished with Nuvite. Compare to above:
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...033cMedium.jpg
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...0034Medium.jpg
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...0010Medium.jpg
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...0009Medium.jpg
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...0001Medium.jpg
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...0013Medium.jpg
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...0004Medium.jpg

mickmate 10-20-2012 02:49 PM
Halibrand wheels have Halibrand cast into them. The difference between early and late is whether the Halibrand lettering reads straight across or wraps around the elliptical end of the hole.

ERA Chas 10-20-2012 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mickmate (Post 1215892)
The difference between early and late is whether the Halibrand lettering reads straight across or wraps around the elliptical end of the hole.
So to clarify further for these guys, my late Halibrands show the logo and type/size designations straight across the web and on webs 180 degrees apart.
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...HALIBRANDF.jpg
http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/v...HALIBRANDR.jpg

just dreamin 10-20-2012 04:21 PM
Good point chas I dont think these are magnesium at all and I certainly dont want someone buying these believing they are. I dont know how Trigo or PS etc can produce a clone and mark them as Halibrand if Halibrand are still trading? Dont you have trade marks etc there. My other set came with knock off spinners that have Halibrand cast into one of the ears of each of these.
Further if these clones are available and they look the part why would anyone without an original csx want original magnesium Halibrand on their replica. I am not being critical here but I am being confused. Someone care to enlighten me. Kind regards.

ERA Chas 10-20-2012 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by just dreamin (Post 1215902)
Further if these clones are available and they look the part why would anyone without an original csx want original magnesium Halibrand on their replica. I am not being critical here but I am being confused. Someone care to enlighten me. Kind regards.
To be clear, I did not mean to imply that you were misrepresenting them. To your credit, as I said, you never called them 'magnesium' wheels.
I can answer why those without CSXs would want them. In my case it was the desire for their lightness from a performance standpoint. Also their original beauty which the minor differences the aluminum wheel makers failed to capture. My feeling is that the only impetus for the alloys is the ease of maintenance compared to magnesium.
Evan may want them because he has a CSX. Rodknock may want them for his KMP because;
He loves the light weight which his car is known for,
He loves their appearance,
He's nuts-:D
No, I don't think they're just for CSXs-if you want to pay the price of admission. Indeed, many restored original Cobras are fitted with Trigos!

RodKnock 10-20-2012 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ERA Chas (Post 1215907)
He's nuts-:D
Yes, I am. :p

ERA Chas 10-20-2012 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1215926)
Yes, I am. :p
Came close this time, eh buddy??%/

rodneym 10-20-2012 10:42 PM
concerning Chas' points; I did learn from Fran that he could put the stems in the webs or the rim. Maybe they're from one of his runs?
And how about weighing them?

ERA Chas 10-21-2012 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1215943)
concerning Chas' points; I did learn from Fran that he could put the stems in the webs or the rim. Maybe they're from one of his runs?
And how about weighing them?
MY fronts weigh 17.2 pounds - rears, 19.7. With mounted Billboards, 35 and 42-including balance weights.
An interesting other difference I noticed from the Aussie wheels and mine are the hub face (the pin area) -his are scolloped and mine are cylindrical.
Dunno if all Halibrands are the same as mine. Something else for you to look for.

RodKnock 10-21-2012 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ERA Chas (Post 1215934)
Came close this time, eh buddy??%/
Finding a set or getting Halibrand to do another production run in my lifetime seems very unlikely at this point. And seeing threads like this just rubs salt in the wound. :CRY:

Lew Ledyard 10-21-2012 05:20 PM
Crosswaithe & Gardner lists the GT40 style in magnesium on their site. I contacted them earlier this year asking them if they still offered them. They said that they did, but they never responded to my further enquiry as to price. Maybe if they thought that there was some Internet, they would consider producing a run.


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