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Did someone say "Girly Men"
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hehehehe, auto trans too......heater, defroster.
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Power what? You are supposed to be the power in these cars, not some assistant!;) |
Another what I got is the best??? All SPFs have vacuum boost brakes. If I try coasting down a hill with the engine off the brakes won't hardly stop the Cobra. I would guess the SPF Wildwood disks and pads are set up to work with the vacuum boost system. If you didn't have a vac boost, you would have to have a different rotor/pad set up. Wish someone here actually knew the significant differences between the two systems other than what I got is fine.... Without a vac boost do you have more unsprung weight? Is the vac boost system cheaper for SPF to install? Yeah, I want power steering too.
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There's a big difference between a car with power brakes suddenly losing vacuum and a car with manual brakes.
Guys think that driving a car with manual brakes would be like the time the engine died in their Yukon Denali and they didn't have any brakes.....nowhere near the same feeling. |
This one tickled my funny bone a little. I grew up in a time when power brakes were a luxury as was most things power.
When building our car it was not even an option. The science of steering and stopping is not all that complicated especially when talking to the people in the know. For example Wilwood brakes helped me through the whole process with rotors,calipers,dual masters,proportional valve,pressure gauge etc etc.This car will put you through the glass and with very little pedal pressure. The manual steering rack is quick and solid.Both systems are designed to give an excellent feel of the road, total control and the confidence to push the car to the limit of the tires at least Personally would not want to drive a Cobra with any power assist. |
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I'v never had power brakes on my car. I can out-brake almost any other car on the track. |
Power brakes don't make the car stop any faster. This is a common misconception about power brakes. All it is an power assist to make it easier to apply pressure to the brakes. With cars as light as Cobras (and most race cars) power steering and brakes are not needed.
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This is not a subject for which there is a right or wrong answer. If you like power brakes and steering, great - they are just as good as manual, not better or worse. If you like manual brakes, good - they are just as good as power, not better or worse. It's what you get use to and like the feel of.
Of course that is dependent on everything being in mechanically sound, operating condition. |
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I wouldn't want power brakes. "Feel" is gone. If you need power brakes to stop a car this light, it's not set up right.
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are there any current production Sports or super sport cars for the road that don't have power assisted brakes?
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The Zonda Cinque does not have power brakes. Some of their other models do have vacuum assist brakes though.
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IMHO, it's all about feeling the car. As many have said previously, in a 2,200-2,500 lb car, don't see how you need such things.
Need to feel everything...every twitch, every fade, every sound or whatever and not be relying on secondary systems. But, everyone has their own preferences and I can respect that. These cars are like having a custom set of shoes or shirts made. It's fits you and that's all that counts.:cool: |
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For track use... when you put too much horsepower and a lot of grip in a 90" WB chassis, it tends to get a little "sketchy" when trying to drive at the limit. I feel that I can stay ahead of the car with corrections, having a small wheel and a quick ratio. I don't think I would be comfortable at the limit with the slower response time of a manual rack and/or larger wheel. Indy Car is one of the few hold outs that don't allow P/S even though all the drivers want it for the reduced effort. Indy Car's reasoning is that the teams would just quicken the steering until they were back to manual effort level anyway. |
Scott-if you weren't carrying all those run n gun trophies with you , you might have room for a larger steering wheel-----
You guys knocking the steering otta check out Scottj credentials |
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I have tried lots of different calipers and rotors and all were easy to modulate with reasonable effort. When I first ran the car I had to throw the wheel and then catch it in order to move the steering fast enough to stay ahead of the car, power steering is worlds better. |
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