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Mark IV

10-23-2013 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1268946)

Every Cobra Or replica thereof on the road is non DOT approved.

Actually that is not really true.

Many (most?) replicas are DOT compliant, however they are not NHTSA compliant. DOT sets standards for components i.e. brake hoses are double crimped, have compilant sheathing, etc. That is a DOT standard. So is windshield glass meeting AS1 DOT standards, seat belt certification, etc. NHTSA sets standards of performance i.e. braking distance, interior materials flammability, crash standards and so on.

Most of the parts you purchase to build a replica are DOT approved. If you got brake hoses at the auto parts store they are approved. If you used DOT brake fluid, ditto. Sealed beam headlamps, ditto again.

Many people confuse DOT with NHTSA, they are not the same.

Bill D

10-23-2013 07:51 AM

Are there any instances where the tires gave way while driving on the road?

bwcobra15

10-23-2013 08:28 AM

Just curious - I don't know the answer. But why does every new 427 that leaves Provo appear to be riding on billboards? Seems to me if they are good enough for the Kirkhams.....

RodKnock

10-23-2013 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1268946)

Every Cobra Or replica thereof on the road is non DOT approved. The issue is BBs dry out sooner then DOT tires and should be switched for a new set sooner then tires with more elastomers in them.

I agree with the first sentence. EDIT: Cobras are NOT Federally approved, and who cares what agency.

I would also add that nearly all cars make contact with the road in only 4 spots. Personally, I would want those 4 contact spots to be extraordinarily safe.

RodKnock

10-23-2013 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bwcobra15 (Post 1269004)

Just curious - I don't know the answer. But why does every new 427 that leaves Provo appear to be riding on billboards? Seems to me if they are good enough for the Kirkhams.....

My Kirkham left Provo with Yokohama's (street radials).

Bernica

10-23-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill D (Post 1269001)

Are there any instances where the tires gave way while driving on the road?

Well, I guess I came as close as I care to. :eek:

rodneym

10-23-2013 10:49 AM

Evan,
There are pics of Avons with GOODYEAR stenciled lettering (from Raceline Digital) floating around but you will be disappointed IMO due to what I perceive as your attention to detail.
They may look OK from a distance but they don't buldge like the BB's.

REAL 1

10-23-2013 03:44 PM

Couldn't find the pics.

Thanks tough.

Does anyone know if Avons have any history with Cobras????

Bernica

10-23-2013 03:57 PM

I have had a few folks say good things about the G7 and G12 Goodyears, but can't speak first-hand. Anyone here using them or experience with them?

Roger Kraus Racing - Pricing

RodKnock

10-23-2013 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1269042)

Does anyone know if Avons have any history with Cobras????

Yes, they do, based upon the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" theory. :LOL:

Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

xlr8tr

10-24-2013 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernica (Post 1269044)

I have had a few folks say good things about the G7 and G12 Goodyears, but can't speak first-hand. Anyone here using them or experience with them?

Roger Kraus Racing - Pricing

I'm curious as well, my billboards are due for a replace- wonder if the G7's have the same sidewall cracking issue. Unfortunate the G7's don't have the "EAGLE" portion of the lettering on the sidewall, but likely easy to add with a stencil.

Mark IV

10-24-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlr8tr (Post 1269131)

wonder if the G7's have the same sidewall cracking issue.

Also race tires without additves for long term use. Likely the same situation.

Race tires are race tires, street tires are street tires. Neither does the others job well.

Bernica

10-24-2013 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark IV (Post 1269150)

Also race tires without additves for long term use. Likely the same situation.

Race tires are race tires, street tires are street tires. Neither does the others job well.

I think Mark IV is right. Avon's site clearly states "competition compound" but also makes a point of stating "DOT Approved" and that they are radial tires. I'm hearing scores of 9 or 10 on dry pavement and near zero in the wet.

I don't think there exists the "perfect all-everything tire" for a Cobra that we all wish was out there.

No easy answer to this conundrum! %/

RodKnock

10-24-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernica (Post 1269153)

There are plenty of Cobra and GT40 owners using their Avons for racing.

And I don't know many folks running their Cobra's, GT40's or what have you, in the wet/rain. So maybe that zero is because not many, if any, have any experience on wet pavement.

All I know is that I'm NOT ever going to be an owner of Billboards for any reason except possibly to roll on and off a trailer to shows.

Bernica

10-24-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark IV (Post 1269150)

Also race tires without additves for long term use.

Botox injections? Maybe regular massages? Hell, I know plenty of guys that pay for that for their wives for other forms other forms of "long term use". :cool:

Sorry, had to do it.

marco454v8

10-24-2013 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REAL 1 (Post 1269042)

Couldn't find the pics.

Thanks tough.

Does anyone know if Avons have any history with Cobras????

Don't know about history, but I went to a classic car race at Paul Ricard here in France a couple of weeks ago, and all (8) Cobras and all (5) GT40's were running Avons

Mark

RodKnock

10-24-2013 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marco454v8 (Post 1269162)

Don't know about history, but I went to a classic car race at Paul Ricard here in France a couple of weeks ago, and all (8) Cobras and all (5) GT40's were running Avons

Mark

Ya, see. Even the French use them. :LOL:

Bingo, baby! ;)

rodneym

10-25-2013 03:07 PM

Evan,
Check this link. It's a nice GT40 with GY painted on Avons.
427 Cobra Country--Ford AC Cobra replica manufacturers SUPER-SITE

RodKnock

10-25-2013 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1269290)

Evan,
Check this link. It's a nice GT40 with GY painted on Avons.
427 Cobra Country--Ford AC Cobra replica manufacturers SUPER-SITE

Better link(s) for ya:

Avons with Goodyear on them:
http://www.cobracountry.com/GT40s-fo...b-1296x691.jpg

Avons with Avon on them:
http://www.cobracountry.com/GT40s-fo...180-BIG-ca.jpg

RodKnock

10-25-2013 03:48 PM

BTW, if the poll is correct, at this point, 9 out of 28 respondents (32%) have had problems with their Billboards.

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