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Yes, small block Ford engines are cheaper to build than big block Ford engines. True. Performance parts are available for all configurations. Obvious, but true. At a minimum, Cleveland heads are much larger than Windsor heads. So, they're not the same dimensionally. All big block Fords don't leak. And small blocks leak too. My BBF doesn't leak. And my BBF doesn't have any cooling issues. The rest, leaks, cooling, handling and performance, will depend on the car, engine builder and your budget. |
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If authenticity and spectators don't matter to you, but cost does matter, then small block all the way. |
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Sure, but a Windsor is almost 3/8" taller in the decks.
With a factory bore Windsor, you have to use a 4.100" or 4.170" stroke crank to get 427 inches. With a factory bore Cleveland, you again would have to use a 4.100" or 4.170" stroke crank, but there's less room for the piston. Due to the crankshaft design, you have to use a 6.200" rod, and in the Cleveland's case, that would make for a 1" compression height piston. Normally, that's not an issue, 400 SBC's use them all the time, but the intake valve location in a Cleveland pretty much hampers that idea. You could also use a 6" rod, but you have to cut the counterweights on the crankshaft down by almost a 1/4", and that gets super costly....then you have to balance it....and that's super costly again. |
Good info, thanks Brent.
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RodKnock, a bit of a stretch lol yea for sure, he was easy on me, I gave him a 'Like " for that. I did find a FE 390 for $10,000 570HP. I was thinking more of the 427/428. So the FE 390 can be built for about the same price.
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Sorry, thoght it is a 351W which could go easily to 427.
You can get plenty of hp form a 351C... My late buddy in SA only changed cam and pistons and got 500+ The cam was very radical though, not streetable. For the records, I am a FE fan for originality reasons. Else I prefer 427W. |
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I'm in the same boat. Here is a guy on 460forums that builds only BBF. A 460 with I know it's not top of the line stuff, but a pretty good price. He breaks in the motor and checks for leaks before it's shipped. He uses Procomp heads that he goes through before installing. But then again, I'm looking at buying a NEW Backdraft and this will be a tight fit. Still got to do some research on how hard it is to say change the plugs ext....
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Spend a little extra & get rid of those China based Procomp heads. Use instead John Kasse P-51 Heads with the above listed engine build & pick up 100 hp est. A set of P-51 was about 2K to 3K last I checked Also a 385 is a very dependable/strong engine, as long as you keep the rev's less than 6,500rpm.
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wow this has been a good discussion I'm thinking a 390 stroked to a 440 or maybe a 351 stroked to a 393 they both seem to be very good combo's but I need to measure the fe for fitment that Cleveland:CRY: is tight in their as it is.
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