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cobra 10-10-2014 08:47 AM

Dear Davide
Unfortunately, I do not remember exactly but I think it was something a year ago.
Good luck.

DavideG 10-11-2014 09:11 AM

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Harley753 10-11-2014 10:53 AM

I have been reading with interest your new cobra ownership journey - and if it were me I would need to disclose all the information I have for any future buyer. I don’t understand the laws outside of the US – and only understand some of them here - but I would be contacting a lawyer to find my legal recourse. It appears that the paper work presented does not represent the automobile that was purchased. I think the seller needs to be held accountable for the sale – and they may have been simply repeating what they thought to be true.
It seems like there must be a process to move through the history of the original 0469 from 1996 and find out what happened. There might be someone out there that still believes they own the Kirkham 0469 but it was stolen or sits in the old barn outside. It seems like the car you have purchased is a Kirkham 0469 and now the question is who owns that car.

DavideG 10-17-2014 02:31 AM

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cobra 10-22-2014 06:01 AM

Dear Davide
I feel a little ripped off. You wanted all the information for a friend who wants to sell the Cobra again. Despite the knowledge that it is a small block engine, is again 7000 lt. and the first registration should be in 1961...............

AC Kirkham 427, Occasion, 4'500 km, CHF 142'000.- - AutoScout24

Hopefully someone buys it with a good lawyer, which sheds some light on the whole affair and "your" friend in the ass biting.
Unfortunately harm such exercises for viewing by Cobra Replicas in Switzerland enormously.

DavideG 10-22-2014 06:52 AM

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DavideG 10-22-2014 06:56 AM

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1ntCobra 10-22-2014 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cobra (Post 1323322)
Dear Davide
I feel a little ripped off. You wanted all the information for a friend who wants to sell the Cobra again. Despite the knowledge that it is a small block engine, is again 7000 lt. and the first registration should be in 1961...............

AC Kirkham 427, Occasion, 4'500 km, CHF 142'000.- - AutoScout24

Hopefully someone buys it with a good lawyer, which sheds some light on the whole affair and "your" friend in the ass biting.
Unfortunately harm such exercises for viewing by Cobra Replicas in Switzerland enormously.


Well at least the advertisement mentions that it is a Kirkham. It is possible to be a 7 liter small block, but I doubt it has 582 HP.

I hope Davide's friend consulted with a lawyer before putting the car up for sale, but I doubt it. Consulting with a lawyer would be a tiny percentage of the current asking price of the car and could potentially save the seller much more money in the long term if the seller gets sued at a later date.

Jac Mac 10-22-2014 12:36 PM

582 ps is ~573.8 hp :), bit like this thread, not quite what it seems!

RodKnock 10-22-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DavideG (Post 1321931)
Dear cobra, one year ago I think it's quite impossibile that there was an AD for our cobra. Two year ago it's more probable, but was the previous owner. Someone as said me that he tried to put and ADV also for 250.000 CHF, but obviously he doesn't sold the car for that price, and more obviously we didn't pay any of that two price for the car. ;)


Dear 1ntCobra, I think to have understand your reasoning / metaphors, but I think that the issue is more simply:
if one of the first owner has done such a equivocal thing with the documents, why he gave them to the next owner, and the next owner gave them to another, and so on.
That US Title is completely useless for me or for every other, because it's a document in addition, total superfluous.

If the first owner made some witchcraft with documents, it would be better for him to destroy or put in a strongbox that paper, and not hand it over to the next owner ;) because it's complete senseless,

I have no idea what anyone is talking about anymore, but the one thing that is clear to me is that a Kirkham Cobra produced in 2006 is NOT a 1961 Bristol. And a 2006 Kirkham Cobra couldn't have been registered in 1996, 10 year before it was made. It's as simple as that.

But if the CA title is superfluous at this point, then toss it. The chances of that car being reimported into the US is probably zero. And the chances of the car being reimported into CA specifically is less than zero. :LOL:


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