Why does every thread here devolve into a "Real" vs. "Replica" argument?

[Xack]

Oh come on! Evan just wants everyone to appreciate that he paid good money to own a "Shelby Cobra". E-v-e-r-y-o-n-e.....

[Joe's Garage]

That's what his license plate said, "REAL427" and I have no reason to doubt it!

Real 427 by SkipM on DeviantArt

Yup, what we've been sayin' all along. Real or not, it's what the pedestrian walks away thinking.

[Al G]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

That's what his license plate said, "REAL427" and I have no reason to doubt it!

Real 427 by SkipM on DeviantArt

Yup, what we've been sayin' all along. Real or not, it's what the pedestrian walks away thinking.

What license plate? How do you know it's not just the photographer calling it real? What's your point?

[REAL 1]

Yes, my plate says REAL427. Exactly what the car is. Exactly what the engine is.

I don't give a rats a$$ what the "pedestrian" thinks when he is walking away. Really? Who gives chit. I don't. I have said and will say again that the visable reaction of Mr. Pedestrian is quite remarkable when he finds out it is a Continuation Shelby as opposed to a "replica" or a kit. What he thinks when he walks away? Again, if different than the visable reaction I don't know but if so again could give damn.

Ned can say whatever he wants. Couldn't care less. He has an obvious axe to grind. Not re-hashing his statements as to what he meant or didn't mean. Couldn't care less. He apparently didn't read the Registry either in certain areas based on his statements. He is not SAAC nor the Registry and doesn't speak for them. He is one guy who knows a lot about the original series. So what.

Next.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Ned can say whatever he wants. Couldn't care less. He has an obvious axe to grind. Not re-hashing his statements as to what he meant or didn't mean. Couldn't care less. He apparently didn't read the Registry either in certain areas based on his statements. He is not SAAC nor the Registry and doesn't speak for them. He is one guy who knows a lot about the original series. So what.

Next.

Please keep belittling and insulting him. Or whatever you doing. It's great. More and more please.

Hopefully, it will light a bigger fire under the collective SAAC Board to remove all replicas from the Registry. Yeah!

I'll miss KMP539 in there, but so what. No great loss.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Please keep belittling and insulting him. Or whatever you doing. It's great. More and more please.

Hopefully, it will light a bigger fire under the collective SAAC Board to remove all replicas from the Registry. Yeah!

I'll miss KMP539 in there, but so what. No great loss.

Belittling him? Insulting him? Not at all. I stick with the facts and try and stay out of the toilet unlike your buddies. When he's wrong he's wrong. Besides what makes him off limits and not others to insult when other are constantly insulted here especially me when I take insults constantly. I don't care who the hell is. If he is wrong on an issue I'll call it. What makes him God? ... he isn't. Maybe to you. You lay roses at his feet. Not me.

Very knowledgeable on the original cars he is. I have a lot of respect for his knowledge regarding the original cars and their history. On that he is an expert. Doesn't mean everything that comes out of his mouth or posted here on this particular issue regarding current production Cobras is correct. He clearly has an axe to grind regarding the Continuation Cobras. Clearly. Self admitted in fact. The facts, law and history is clear. Not even "Ned" can change that.

The SAAC board can change their mind and say Ooops were were all wrong and all that logical explanation, oh that was wrong. We're going to show that guy on Club Cobra since he doesn't bow at the feet of Ned Scudder and change everything we said about the Continuation series. Really?

Good luck with that.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Next.

Didn't you leave this merry-go-round? Twice already?

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Didn't you leave this merry-go-round? Twice already?

If he was a man of his word, he wouldn't have to leave because he would have never been here. A promise made in 2003 ...

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Let me say that if anyone was insulted or felt put "down" by my statements on the other threads I apologize for that. It was not my intention in the least. Obviously some have taken it wrong. But going back and looking at it I can see where some might say I was pushing "some buttons".

As a holiday gift to CC I will not longer participate in such discussions should they arise. Very rarely, almost never have I brought the subject up myself. The consensus seems to be I can't play nice on the subject so I won't involve myself in it. Thats fine. No problem.

Sorry, again.

Fast-forward 12 years, nothing has changed with the exception of what button is being pushed. God willing and the creep don't rise, the next Registry may be the end of this. With the Shelby replicas gone, Evan's head should implode as the essence of Evan would have been edited out

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by joe's garage

... You are, by all accounts, morally bankrupt when it comes to describing what you actually own to others.

As one has noted - funny, sad, fascinating and pathetic all at the same time ...

... nothing more to add here.

[Paul F]

It sounds like a couple of nebbish klutzes kibitzing. How long can these putzes pull on each others tushes with this spiel? These schlemiels will keep schlepping this bupkis until everyone goes plotz.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Paul F

It sounds like a couple of nebbish klutzes kibitzing. How long can these putzes pull on each others tushes with this spiel? These schlemiels will keep schlepping this bupkis until everyone goes plotz.

Very, very good. Paul, you've mastered the Yiddish language. Pretty good for a gentile.

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by Paul F

It sounds like a couple of nebbish klutzes kibitzing. How long can these putzes pull on each others tushes with this spiel? These schlemiels will keep schlepping this bupkis until everyone goes plotz.

I did not understand one word of that...

[jhv48]

Originally Posted by Paul F

It sounds like a couple of nebbish klutzes kibitzing. How long can these putzes pull on each others tushes with this spiel? These schlemiels will keep schlepping this bupkis until everyone goes plotz.

Oi vey!

[Paul F]

Well, my first boss was old school from Skokie, Il. Great guy.

[Joe's Garage]

How many of the old timers remember this nugget from 2004, Evan putting csx4206 up for sale?

"DON'T MISS THIS RARE OPPORTUNITY TO OWN AN ORIGINAL SHELBY AMERICAN COBRA WITH THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL AT A PRICE YOU COULD NOT DUPLICATE IT FOR.

Call Evan Harris for details"

CSX 4206 for sale. No comments on this thread please!

Oh my!

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

How many of the old timers remember this nugget from 2004, Evan putting csx4206 up for sale?

"DON'T MISS THIS RARE OPPORTUNITY TO OWN AN ORIGINAL SHELBY AMERICAN COBRA WITH THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL AT A PRICE YOU COULD NOT DUPLICATE IT FOR.

Call Evan Harris for details"

CSX 4206 for sale. No comments on this thread please!

Oh my!

Evan you got some splainin' to do!

[REAL 1]

You want me to explain an add error over 10 years ago? Ok. Keep waiting I think my intent was to convey it was an original Continuation Cobra at that time. Candidly don't recall. Of course your implication is at that time I was trying to "dupe" potential buyers. Yes, of course I was.

Still waiting for pics on your uh, whatever it is you have...

The two buyers who wanted the car on the sale (at $145K when original 427s were selling for 3 to 4X's that) were more than aware it was a continuation Shelby. Uh, its VIN is CSX4206. A village idiot looking at these cars even in 2004 knew that's a continuation series vin.

Oh, BTW that thread was back in 2004 and I just notieced in that thread SAAC had its statement position on Continuation Cobras long before SAAC had it's little tiff with Carroll in 2008. Ned the "curator" was wrong on that one too.

Here is the quote from the 2004 post from SAAC:

As far as CSX4000 and CSX7000 cars are concerned, SAAC accepts these cars as genuine Shelby American Cobras (as opposed to "original" Shelby American Cobras). The definition we use to identify an original Cobra is one which was, 1) built between 1961 and 1968, 2) at the direction of and under contract from Carroll Shelby/Shelby American Inc., and 3) sold by Shelby American or one of its franchised dealers. The only difference between original Cobras and CSX4000 and CSX7000 cars is the time frame in which they were built (1). However, all three factors separate Shelby’s current cars from all the rest of the Cobra replicas, AC MK IVs, COB/COX continuation cars, etc. So, to our way of thinking, the current crop of Cobras are genuine but are not original.

Statement superseded by Registry which takes the identical position in 2008/9 when issued.

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

You want me to explain an add error over 10 years ago? ...

Yeah, how you added ORIGINAL

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Oh, BTW that thread was back in 2004 and I just notieced in that thread SAAC had its statement position on Continuation Cobras long before SAAC had it's little tiff with Carroll in 2008. Ned the "curator" was wrong on that one too.

Here is the quote from the 2004 post from SAAC:

As far as CSX4000 and CSX7000 cars are concerned, SAAC accepts these cars as genuine Shelby American Cobras (as opposed to "original" Shelby American Cobras). The definition we use to identify an original Cobra is one which was, 1) built between 1961 and 1968, 2) at the direction of and under contract from Carroll Shelby/Shelby American Inc., and 3) sold by Shelby American or one of its franchised dealers. The only difference between original Cobras and CSX4000 and CSX7000 cars is the time frame in which they were built (1). However, all three factors separate Shelby’s current cars from all the rest of the Cobra replicas, AC MK IVs, COB/COX continuation cars, etc. So, to our way of thinking, the current crop of Cobras are genuine but are not original.

Statement superseded by Registry which takes the identical position in 2008/9 when issued.

That 2004 statement doesn't mean a thing, probably preceding or during the hostilities with Shelby.

Ned's thoughts on replicas must mean something to you, since you're perseverating on it. Ned has said "certain liberties were taken" with the Registry, which was published around 2008. And you're going backwards in time? Now it's the Year 2004, how about 1995 when they started the cloning process. Or even better back to 1965 and make your car a CSX3000.

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TODAY posted on the website, even remotely saying that your car is genuine. Let's think about 2015, not a decade ago. And come on, provide links, so we can have context too. It's not hard, even you can do it.

Again, more nonsense posted that proves less than before, which was nothing. Let's call a spade a spade. It's a replica. And you've admitted to that.

[Xack]

You forgot to put his 5 Rolex watch replicas in the crying pic. (You put a lot of time in that)