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Kit Coyle 05-17-2016 02:37 PM

Shelby's personal BOSS 302 Cobra ??
 
Someone told me that Shelby put a BOSS 302 in his personal 289 Cobra.
The BOSS 302 was only made in 1969 and 1970 so he could have only done
it in 1969 or later. Does anyone know if their is any truth to this "rumor."
Thanks to all you Cobra history buffs!

Nedsel 05-17-2016 06:30 PM

A Boss 302 won't fit into a standard 289 engine bay without modifications to fit the larger heads. But Shelby did put a 351 Windsor into CSX 2589.

1ntCobra 05-18-2016 11:09 AM

Perhaps the Boss 302 would not fit in an original 289 Cobra, but Shelby has certainly owned several completion and continuation Cobras. I sort of recall him mention in a video that he had just built a small block Cobra with an automatic transmission for his personal use. I assumed that was a CSX7000 or CSX8000. I wonder if a Boss 302 would fit in one of those.

1985 CCX 05-18-2016 12:01 PM

Hmmmm maybe so? :LOL: :CRY: :LOL:

CSX2498 in 70's......... Karl's dad's car... Now has 289 again, but....
'69 Boss 302. Installed Fall 1969 and removed Fall 2002............
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d.../212281012.jpg

LMH 05-18-2016 12:38 PM

Late CSX cars are essentially the same dimension as the original, so the Boss wouldn't fit new either. Shelby owned one original leaf spring that was one of the automatic trans cars produced. CSX2589 I think but don't quote me. I don't know about any Cobra 427's.
Larry

LMH 05-18-2016 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedsel (Post 1391695)
A Boss 302 won't fit into a standard 289 engine bay without modifications to fit the larger heads. But Shelby did put a 351 Windsor into CSX 2589.

Ned, Windsor or Cleveland?
Larry

Bernica 05-18-2016 01:01 PM

I assume we are talking about the old Boss 302 that was the test bed and precursor for the Cleveland. The old Boss was only built in '68 and '69.
The new Boss is a completely different engine obviously...

1985 CCX 05-18-2016 01:26 PM

Post transplant....

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d.../HPIM09011.JPG

Kit Coyle 05-18-2016 01:42 PM

The BOSS 302 was only made in 1969 and 1970 in Ford's effort to beat the Z-28
Camero in the Trans-am Series. The blocks were a special iron alloy block
with 4 bolt mains and screw-in freeze plugs. The heads were what later
became the 351 Cleveland head. It was a 7000-9000 RPM race engine with
large ports and valves which suffered in the midrange where the fuel velocity
dropped off. I have a vintage 1970 Boss in my ERA and it fits easily. The only
concession was a custom header set up for the heads.

twobjshelbys 05-18-2016 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMH (Post 1391788)
Late CSX cars are essentially the same dimension as the original, so the Boss wouldn't fit new either. Shelby owned one original leaf spring that was one of the automatic trans cars produced. CSX2589 I think but don't quote me. I don't know about any Cobra 427's.
Larry

When I was in Carroll's Garage in 2009 CSX2589 was being worked on, and it does have an automatic. He also had CSX4194 with undercar exhaust. I didn't get a picture of the engine.

427sharpe 05-18-2016 04:22 PM

I seem to recall reading on the SAAC site that CSX2589 had a 351 Cleveland, not a Windsor.

griffin289trips 05-25-2016 02:25 PM

Boss 302? or 351C
 
I also seem to remember Shelby had Mike McCluskey install a 351c in his 289 Cobra. I had an old magazine that showed the Cobra with the 351, not sure if it was a Boss 351 or just a 351C. The magazine was printed in the 70s. I do believe it also had an auto. The magazine was published by Peterson Magazines? I think. It was a long time ago.

Ron61 05-26-2016 04:23 AM

That is what one of my Cobra books says also and it has a picture of the car with the engine in it.

Ron

Quote:

Originally Posted by 427sharpe (Post 1391800)
I seem to recall reading on the SAAC site that CSX2589 had a 351 Cleveland, not a Windsor.


Kit Coyle 05-26-2016 12:12 PM

Ron61...can you put up a picture of that 351C in Shelby's Cobra? I believe
Ford put the 351C engine in the Pantera so it would seem reasonable for them
to just send one over to Shelby to stick in his 289 as it would have been the
high output Ford small block of the day.


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