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Old 06-25-2016, 11:50 AM
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The only thing I'm worried about is not enough power.

I will only be racing here and there for fun, so being used mainly on the street, I always like a torque motor over a high HP one. Torques gets you there, HP stays you there.

You and I have the same "IDEA".

I like driving downtown at night around the bars, as I get on the loud pipes and scare the CRAP out of people !
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Old 06-25-2016, 11:58 AM
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This is partly how I do it, my mufflers.



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This is partly how I do it, my mufflers.



LOL- same pipes on mine, love setting of the car alarms as I rumble by. And I'd always take horsepower today (and for many years) vs. a few extra bucks at some unforeseen point in time way in the future if/when I sell.... its all about the smiles per mile!
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The only time I cringed at setting off my neighbors alarms, was leaving at 4:00 in the morning to Kansas to the Good Guys Meet.

I could hear them now,..."GILMORE" !!!
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Old 06-25-2016, 02:12 PM
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Hey Brent, what do you suppose is this engine.
Small block what ?

Sounds incredible !


[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJN2diQPpMU[/ame]
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Hey Brent, what do you suppose is this engine.
Small block what ?

Sounds incredible !


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Little high compression small block of some sort. Doesn't take that much power to smoke the tires like that though.

I could build a 390 (not stroked) with some compression and a healthy solid flat tappet and do much more than that.....
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The only thing I'm worried about is not enough power.

I will only be racing here and there for fun, so being used mainly on the street, I always like a torque motor over a high HP one. Torques gets you there, HP stays you there.

You and I have the same "IDEA".

I like driving downtown at night around the bars, as I get on the loud pipes and scare the CRAP out of people !
Sounds like we have similar uses for our cars. If you have any doubt on not having enough power the 385 would be my choice...especially if you are a TQ guy. Small blocks can make pretty insane TQ as well but most of them aren't going to be capable of making the higher end power if they are setup for the lower TQ....and if they do they will be more high strung. In all honesty the 427 I have now is plenty but I want more....I want to get to a point where I don't want more. I think 700-750hp and 600-650tq would be enough for me.

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The only thing I'm worried about is not enough power.
Most Cobra owner boast about how much HP they have under the hood, but
NEVER use, know how to use or want to take it to the track (any track) to use.
So lounge chair racers are a dime a dozen like the Cobra roadster.

That's my two cents.

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I don't know if that was an insult, or not ?

The trend today is to have over 1,000 HP, and that's nuts, as like you said, unusable power. But, 600 HP/TQ is usable, in most cars, even the Cobra.
You need the chassis set-up, good tires and throttle control.

Power,....is fun. If I were drag or road racing, I'd have a small block and more controllable power bands.

So, I'm not worried about too much power dude.
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Most Cobra owner boast about how much HP they have under the hood, but
NEVER use, know how to use or want to take it to the track (any track) to use.
So lounge chair racers are a dime a dozen like the Cobra roadster.

That's my two cents.
He's right. FUNFER2, after the first few years of owning an FE powered Cobra, if you haven't sold it, you're likely to have turned your attention towards: 1) eliminating leaks, and 2) getting it to run "beautifully" at slow, around town, light cruising speeds.
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No he's not. Not me. To each it's own on what a Cobra means to you.

Fun city cruising, low power and good MPG.
Driving highways & interstate's.
Hard street driving.
All out racing.
Huge torque, low grunt, very loud and gassy.
High HP bragging rights.

We can go on & on, but we're all different on how & which way we enjoy our cars. Just because you disagree with my wants & needs, doesn't mean I'm WRONG, and you're RIGHT.

For me, a Cobra with quiet under the car exhaust doesn't get my crank turning, but I've never,....told any owner on how to construct their cars, what engine to use etc....

Although I laughed, George of Gessford Machine once built & installed a Hemi,
into a customers Cobra. Would I, hell no, but to each it's own. I'm not going to insult the owner for what he wanted. I'm sure he loves it.

If you want to "murder it out" being all flat black, fine.
If you want "Bling", fine.
If you want a 250 HP motor, fine.
If you want 2,000 HP, fine.
Or how about a "Batman" jet engine in the trunk, fine.

It's all good guys.
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Patrick, how much power do you have and how much money do you have in the engine ?
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Patrick, how much power do you have and how much money do you have in the engine ?
I wanted a "true, honest reading," so I had it dyno'd with the side pipes attached, and water pump cranking. That number was 475HP. If you pulled the engine out and put it on a dyno with open primaries, the numbers would likely be in the low 500's. IMO, a dyno reading that doesn't at least try and duplicate the running condition of the engine is blatantly misleading. As I said before, blykins could probably clone my engine for $15k, or right around that number, maybe less... as I have some overpriced parts in her that aren't really necessary.
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Thats why I prefer using a chassis dyno vs engine dyno. More real world, especially the Mustang brand. You can also break-in a engine on the chassis dyno and, it's much,.....cheaper to tune than a engine dyno.

Patrick, why did you pay to have your engine dynode, just for tuning and not for power results ?
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He's right. FUNFER2, after the first few years of owning an FE powered Cobra, if you haven't sold it, you're likely to have turned your attention towards: 1) eliminating leaks, and 2) getting it to run "beautifully" at slow, around town, light cruising speeds.
Getting it to run at cruising speeds is just cam shaft choice. Let Blykins build you an engine tell him what u want let him pick the camshaft.
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