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twobjshelbys 06-21-2018 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwight (Post 1446887)

So my advice is "buy a finished Kirkham and drive it."

But he won't. He already doesn't drive the one he has. A change in color and composition probably won't change that.

patrickt 06-21-2018 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by twobjshelbys (Post 1446894)
But he won't. He already doesn't drive the one he has. A change in color and composition probably won't change that.

... yep, anymore than if I went out and bought a new pair of cleats, glove, bat, and cap. Those days have passed me by... just like a warm summer's day. You just have to let 'em go.:cool:

cycleguy55 06-21-2018 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FatBoy (Post 1446819)
No, Dave Brookes (DB) makes his own cars and they are very, very good. They're not quite to Kirkham standard, by his own admission, but you would be hard-pressed to tell the difference.

Kirkhams have become more of a "custom" Cobra in recent years, whereas Dave stays true to the original. He is also a really decent and honest guy. I know a number of people with Dave's Cobras and they love them.

I've never understood the "delicate aluminium" comments when it comes to Kirkhams. Mine is over 10-years old and done well over 30,000 miles and I think the bodies are very tough. The front apron on mine has a good smattering of gravel rash, but then so would anything. I've done a good number of charity track-days on an old military air-base with concrete runways that are constantly shedding grit, which has caused most of the "rash".

If you really want a Kirkham and if you can afford it, I'd say go for it and give that particular itch a good scratch. You can always sell it again later on. You don't want to be saying "I wish... or "if only..." in later years.

ATB
Paul

More memories, fewer regrets.

RodKnock 06-21-2018 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1446897)
... yep, anymore than if I went out and bought a new pair of cleats, glove, bat, and cap. Those days have passed me by... just like a warm summer's day. You just have to let 'em go.:cool:

Geezus, it's the 1st day of Summer, go out an buy a new pair of cleats, glove, bat and cap and join a "beer league." You guys sound like you're ready to buy some burial plots right about now. :p

Personally, I'd like to "go out" running thru the tape at a finish line of a race and I'll probably work until I croak, just like everyone in my family. What's so great about retirement anyway? Buy a motorhome and go see faces carved into a rock? Fly to Paris to see a really big tower or an oil painting in a museum? :LOL:

BTW, whatever happened to the other guy who was debating between buying a Cobra or a motorhome?

Work the extra year and buy the Kirkham. You can always sell it, there are so few on the market.

Anthony 06-22-2018 01:05 PM

Yeah, if you want a kirkham, then i would buy one, used maybe, as time is money. If/when you sell, maybe you may lose a little, break even, or even make a little profit. If you buy a new vette, keep it 5 years and sell, you will lose.

Turbonut48 06-22-2018 02:04 PM

Buy any good running, well assembled. Cobra. Needs sidepipe covers ? get them. Different seats ? Ge them.

Drive the dog**** out of it.
To the store. To church. To work.
It ll make work even more enjoyable to go to.

Good Luck.

The Nut

olddog 06-22-2018 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 1447019)
If you buy a new vette, keep it 5 years and sell, you will lose.

That is the one fact that I see clearly. Almost all cars depreciate rapidly. Some start to appreciate again, given time, but not all. You are not going to do well investing in Vegas, Chevettes, and Pacers. Muscle cars that have a nostalgia to them have gone up in value.

Kit cars and replicas, as a whole, have not been as successful as Cobra replicas, and the Kirkham is the top of that heap. When a Kirkham sold for $50K you could drop a nice FE drive train in one for less than $15K. It was not all that hard to finish one with nice upgrades for less than $75K. Go find one of those cars for sale today for less than $75K. I haven't found any. You will find them for sale asking north of $100K. As I said earlier, they are more like a house than a car. They are definitely keeping pace with inflation. I do think a big part of that is because the price of a new Kirkham has went up so much.

When the Kirkhams get old and decide to retire or sell or close shop, as inevitably will happen some day. What will happen to these cars value? When all that will ever be built, has been built?????

Phx Mike 06-22-2018 03:49 PM

Even though the Kirkham's have seemed to hold their value reasonably well I would not count on it as an investment. It seems to me that most folks interested in Cobras are 55 plus today and the market for these cars is going to start getting smaller in the next 5-10 yrs. Most folks under 35 that I run into at car shows don't know what a Cobra is.

Buy the funnest car to drive that you can afford (and still retire) and that your wife will ride in, and then have fun. At the end of the day it's about the driving and friendships (and a happy wife!) not the car.

RockBit 06-22-2018 07:05 PM

I see the value of these cars driven higher by Shelby American with the continuation cars, not Kirkham. SAI will continue to do this. A rising tide lifts all boats.

olddog 06-22-2018 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Phx Mike (Post 1447031)
It seems to me that most folks interested in Cobras are 55 plus today and the market for these cars is going to start getting smaller in the next 5-10 yrs.

Agreed, but also realize that 50ish is the magic age. It is when the nest is empty, people are making the most they have ever made, and the house is paid for. So after making all the sacrifices for the kids, they are finally free to buy and do what they want. If you would have asked most of us, when we were 30 or 40, what we were interested in, most would not have answered getting a Cobra. We had other priorities.


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Originally Posted by Phx Mike (Post 1447031)
Most folks under 35 that I run into at car shows don't know what a Cobra is.

True, but I have seen the eyes light up when they see my Cobra. From 6 yrs old on up, people who have no idea what it is, instantly fall in love with this car. I never had a clue how many women are actually as much car guy as any man, until I bought the Cobra. How can you look at Cobra and not fall in love at first sight? If I Cobra doesn't float your boat, then no car ever will.

All that said yes it is not an investment.

Oh yea one more thought. The super muscle cars being built today, and even 20yr ago, will not be operable, when they are 50 yrs old. They are piling so much technology onto new cars that is obsolete by the time you pay them off, it is mind boggling. See if you can get someone to fix an Atari (a video game made in the 80's). In 2068, you will be able to buy parts for a Model A Ford, before you would be able to make a 2018 anything run again. At least that is my prediction.

Bartruff1 06-23-2018 07:06 AM

Well, I have a couple teenaged grandsons and their friends and the other boys that I might encounter all know what a Cobra is....because they have seen it in a video game or games that are very popular.

It is very surprising , at least to me, that only about 30% of 16 year old's have a drivers license . How do they expect to get laid without a drivers license.....???

I will add that some of you "kids" in here need to show some respect for your elders....and get the hell off my lawn !

rodneym 06-23-2018 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bartruff1 (Post 1447059)
How do they expect to get laid without a drivers license.....???

The better question is how do you get laid IN a Cobra?
Maybe I'm asking for too much. Like George Constanza flying too close to the sun on wings of pastrami.

Bartruff1 06-23-2018 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1447077)
The better question is how do you get laid IN a Cobra?
Maybe I'm asking for too much. Like George Constanza flying too close to the sun on wings of pastrami.

That would not be a problem for a sixteen year old.....heck....I had a 41 Jeep..:cool:

rodneym 06-23-2018 03:43 PM

Hopefully you did't damage your Willys.

These jokes write themselves.


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