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snakeeyes 03-02-2020 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 1472790)
That's a lovely car, Anthony.

Anthony 03-02-2020 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by snakeeyes (Post 1472792)
That's a lovely car, Anthony.

Thank you.

I built that car to replicate the car I would have ordered from Shelby in 1965/66 had I been around to order a car at that time.

1985 CCX 03-02-2020 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by riggsjr (Post 1472719)
It looks like a nice build except for those rear tires not being in center with the rear wheel well.
Cobras are not centered in the rear, they sit slightly forward in general.
Also, the lip is different as this is one of the transition cars as I recollect meaning its not a std HiTech its one of the 17 or so that were built with a slight change in the frame and rear wheel well design. Think it was an engineering change when cars were being transitioned at the end of HiTech MFG.

66gtk 03-03-2020 08:11 AM
Here's the photo in question
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/P3cAA...1V/s-l1600.jpg

There is a little distortion from the camera angle and focal length, but not enough to account for what the OP is concerned with. I agree with the OP that this looks troubling to me. I don't have an original, unrestored CSX3000 car with me to compare it to, but if I was building or buying a Cobra replica I would want this addressed. The ERA cars I've had have done very well in this respect.

http://customshowboards.com/era472/PA100009webjpg.jpg

bwcobra15 03-03-2020 08:23 AM
image resizer
 
This would be a good opportunity to introduce this handy little utility. use it, please.

How to use Image Resizer for Windows | Image Resizer for Windows

bwcobra15 03-03-2020 08:27 AM
Csx3020
 
Here is CSX3020 ... and yes that's me with my head buried in the foot box taking pictures of and measuring the pedals.

The current owner is a friend and very gracious to let me crawl all over it taking pics to try to replicate originality in my own build.

http://www.bobworley.com/images/CSX3020_MBPhotog.jpg

http://www.bobworley.com/images/IMG_7015.JPG

Buzz 03-03-2020 08:36 AM
Edit - never mind; they're visible now!

t walgamuth 03-03-2020 09:27 AM
Looks like photo distort on that too.

Anthony 03-03-2020 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 66gtk (Post 1472839)

I agree with the OP that this looks troubling to me. I don't have an original, unrestored CSX3000 car with me to compare it to, but if I was building or buying a Cobra replica I would want this addressed. The ERA cars I've had have done very well in this respect.
Well, I think it's kind of a big job, whether you reweld the suspension mounts on the frame, or you modify the A-arms to re-position the wheels. If the wheels aren't rubbing now, and it drive's OK, maybe leave it alone ?

CHANMADD 03-03-2020 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Alfa02 (Post 1472772)
Never quite understood (Dripping, layering, spreading) all this Armor-All type crap on the Tires :confused: #1 tires don't look like that (New or Cleaned) #2 after a few miles driving the stuff flips up on the bodywork, and road dust sticks to it, and makes it look like Sh-t. #3 Tires are suppose look Black & Dry. Am I the only one here that feel's this way %/ Thought's Boy's :p Cheers TommyRot.
I never use that stuff either I just scrub the tire make it clean looks great

Bud Man 03-03-2020 09:57 AM
Around 1990 - 1991, I flew to Phoenix to look at a Hi-Tech that belonged to an owner of a well known trucking company. Very nice car, same livery as this one, but with a SOHC mill. According to the owner, it was one of Tom D’Antonio’s early builds. What was noticeable was the very aggressive rear flare profile with a prominent, well defined lip which was very different than the cars I saw a few weeks later when I returned to Phoenix on business and combined a visit to Hi-Tech’s Tempe factory. During that visit I learned that they had recently splashed a new mold from an original Shelby AC-bodied car that was brought in for restoration, and that all future cars would use that body. The car we are discussing here features the same rear wheelwell shape and flare profile as that SOHC car I saw nearly 30 years ago, so it could be another example of one of Tom’s early efforts.

All anecdotal of course, but in any event, Hi-Tech built some beautiful cars and kits, and it could be successfully argued they were the blueprint for the CSX 4000 series cars Tom worked on during his later years with Shelby-American. Wish they were still around...

patrickt 03-03-2020 10:33 AM
Just another aspect of true originality that just doesn't look right.:(

Mongoose930 03-03-2020 10:54 AM
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Here is a side view of my Hi-Tech at SAAC with the rear wheel tucked forward. Also front / side view. Most of the inspiration came from CSX3020 - one of my favorite Cobra's. That and CSX3026.

Buzz 03-03-2020 11:08 AM
Beautiful car!

snakeeyes 03-03-2020 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mongoose930 (Post 1472853)
Here is a side view of my Hi-Tech at SAAC with the rear wheel tucked forward. Also front / side view. Most of the inspiration came from CSX3020 - one of my favorite Cobra's. That and CSX3026.
Mongoose, do you happen to know what chassis number yours is? I've yet to find one close to mine (#147).

Anthony 03-03-2020 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Bud Man (Post 1472849)

All anecdotal of course, but in any event, Hi-Tech built some beautiful cars and kits, and it could be successfully argued they were the blueprint for the CSX 4000 series cars Tom worked on during his later years with Shelby-American. Wish they were still around...
Yes, it's my understanding that Shelby wanted to get in the kit car business, as there were a lot of companies making money selling 427 kits. And i believe that was the motivation for him to start producing his own kit, but, unlike many of the other kits, i think he wanted his to be structurally, or near structurally, the same as the originals. Not sure whether he contacted D'Antonio, or the other way around, but i believe the CSX4000's intially were just like the Hi-Tech kit cars.

I couldn;t remember the name earlier, but I think the co-owner of Hi-Tech was a guy named tim gunning, who remained Hi-Tech owner after D'Antonio left/sold his interest in Hi-Tech.

Mongoose930 03-03-2020 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by snakeeyes (Post 1472855)
Mongoose, do you happen to know what chassis number yours is? I've yet to find one close to mine (#147).
The latest car that I am aware of is HTM65C0137 and I believe that was pretty close to the end. My car never had a chassis number assigned as it came out as a frame and body after Hi-Tech shut down. If you PM me your e-mail address, I can send you the Hi-Tech information that I have gathered over the past few years.

I believe the very first cars were HTR (Hi-Tech Replica) and the later cars were HTM (Hi-Tech Motorsports).

snakeeyes 03-03-2020 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 1472856)
Yes, it's my understanding that Shelby wanted to get in the kit car business, as there were a lot of companies making money selling 427 kits. And i believe that was the motivation for him to start producing his own kit, but, unlike many of the other kits, i think he wanted his to be structurally, or near structurally, the same as the originals. Not sure whether he contacted D'Antonio, or the other way around, but i believe the CSX4000's intially were just like the Hi-Tech kit cars.

I couldn;t remember the name earlier, but I think the co-owner of Hi-Tech was a guy named tim gunning, who remained Hi-Tech owner after D'Antonio left/sold his interest in Hi-Tech.
Edit: Tom D’Antonio (Tjd) is a member here; maybe he can shed some light on things. I erroneously posted earlier that CC member TimG427 was Tim Gunning; sorry about that. TimG427 owned a breathtaking Hi-Tech replica of CSX3002 and I assumed that + his username = Tim Gunning. I always did suck at math, LOL—apologies to both for the mistaken ID.

1985 CCX 03-05-2020 06:59 AM
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Here is my MKIV, it also as originals sets forward.
Its the geometry of the suspension which CSX, AC and HiTech cars use.
ERA uses their own set up.

LMH 03-05-2020 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 1985 CCX (Post 1472936)
Here is my MKIV, it also as originals sets forward.
Its the geometry of the suspension which CSX, AC and HiTech cars use.
ERA uses their own set up.
Very nice Jeff! I didn’t know you had a MKIV! When did you get that?
Larry


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