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Mark IV 03-09-2021 01:54 AM

I.D. please
 
We are attempting to help a local appraiser identify the make of this Cobra replica. It is registered under a 1967 Mustang Convert 200 CID six-cylinder VIN as was common years ago. The link to the pictures and description are here: https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/80eb...76ba2c57bb9853

All help is appreciated, thanks.

snakeeyes 03-09-2021 08:45 AM

That looks like a Shell Valley to me but I don't know enough about the details of the frame or steering setup to confirm that.

Mark IV 03-09-2021 01:49 PM

Bump. Come'on guys, some knows what this is!

the shadow 03-09-2021 02:10 PM

shell valley or mid-states cobra?

Dirty Harry 03-09-2021 02:48 PM

Looks rather like a Shell Valley to me.

Grubby 03-09-2021 04:13 PM

It is long wheel base. That narrows the field.

There are only a few that build or built 96" cars.

John

Buzz 03-09-2021 08:40 PM

Shape of rear fender coming into the rocker, pronounced rear fender lip, live rear axle, Flaming River steering column, hood and trunk lid hinge attachment mouldings, center console under dash, shape of rear cockpit surround behind the seats and a few other details rule out most of the other popular live-axle brands and point to it being an Antique & Collectibles (A&C) Replica. Not 100% sure on the chassis details, but going by the body/interior cues, that is my pick.

John248 03-09-2021 09:04 PM

Comparing it to my Shell Valley.....there are similarities in the front frame rails and supports, also the shape of the foot boxes. The shape of the trunk and it’s interior are very similar to mine as is the dash, back wall and interior layout. I would say it’s a first generation Shell Valley or MidStates.

I would have to see more of the underside (frame rails, side rails) to offer a better opinion.

John

PDUB 03-09-2021 09:09 PM

Hmmmm...
 
Looks like she might be burning some oil... blue smoke on those few revs.

mrmustang 03-10-2021 03:18 AM

As stated above, appears to be an early Shell Valley or Mid States to me. Leaning towards early Mid State as it used those funky tailights.


Bill S.

Alfa02 03-10-2021 03:35 AM

I have to go with Bill S. on Mid-States too, as in those funky taillights, but also the rear fender shape. Just my guess. TommyRot.

Buzz 03-10-2021 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 1490140)
Shape of rear fender coming into the rocker, pronounced rear fender lip, live rear axle, Flaming River steering column, hood and trunk lid hinge attachment mouldings, center console under dash, shape of rear cockpit surround behind the seats and a few other details rule out most of the other popular live-axle brands and point to it being an Antique & Collectibles (A&C) Replica. Not 100% sure on the chassis details, but going by the body/interior cues, that is my pick.

Add to the above - the horizontal "V-shaped" front frame extensions going to the front bumper support and the horizontal crossmember aft of the radiator location:

https://scontent.fuvf1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...6e&oe=6070269E

https://wavebid-prod.s3.amazonaws.co...acfc8b15393986

Leading edge of rear fenders- Neither Shell Valley nor Midstates look like this

https://scontent.fuvf1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...1a&oe=606E0E8D

https://wavebid-prod.s3.amazonaws.co...be5f148513f2d0

90% sure it's an A&C. 99% sure it's not a Midstates or Shell Valley. I could be wrong, of course - I seem to recall the really old Shell Valleys had an odd looking rear fender leading edge, but not all of the other details I've noted.

1795 03-10-2021 03:33 PM

A&C is located in the Buffalo area and the seller is in a suburb of Buffalo, so it is possible.

Buzz 03-10-2021 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1795 (Post 1490183)
A&C is located in the Buffalo area and the seller is in a suburb of Buffalo, so it is possible.

98.675% sure now.

Buzz 03-10-2021 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 1490188)
98.675% sure now.

That it's an A&C that is. 105.235% sure it's not a Midstates or Shell Valley. (Rounding off to the nearest 3 decimal points, otherwise I'd be more precise)

xb-60 03-10-2021 08:57 PM

I'm 100% convinced that I have no idea (what manufacturer it is ;))

I do, however, have a comment/question .....the front wheels and tyres don't appear to be wider than normal, so does the extra wide front track rule in/out any of the posted suggestions?


Cheers :3DSMILE:
Glen


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