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JAM1775 10-30-2002 07:13 AM

Ceramic Coated Intake ?
 
I was thinking of using Jet Hot to ceramic coat, just the top,
no insides/bottom/portsides, of my intake. I figure it would
have that polished chromed look and and perhaps even act as further heat barrier. Has anyone done this to an intake ?

6T5 Cbra 10-30-2002 07:57 AM



This setup was on my Cobra when I bought it. The 'entire' intake is ceramic coated and it ran much cooler than the single polished aluminum edelbrock I am running now. I would assume the reason was due to the coating.

Gene

Mr.Fixit 10-30-2002 08:33 AM

There are companies that specialize in coatings for applications like this. They put a reflective coating on the underside to keep heat out of the intake, and a black coating on the topside to dissipate heat. Don't have any names or numbers though.

rphubbard 10-30-2002 08:58 AM

Ceramic Coatings
 
I have the intake manifold coated on the inside and out on my blower motor. The manifold runs very cool. This engine is in my truck that I use for towing. I also had the pistons ceramic coated and the skirts of the pistons coated with a dry lubricant. I have never had a detonation problem even when I accidently put mid grade in my tank. I had all my ceramic coating done by HPC in Salt Lake City. I changed my cylinder heads at 15000 miles and the tops of my pistons still looked like they just had been coated. If I would do it again I would get my valves coated and maybe the combustion chambers. When I worked at Kirkham Motorsports we did that to a 427 and it ran very cool.

agro1 10-30-2002 11:08 AM

Entire engine ceramic coated ?? WOW, that would be cool...Can you ceramic mechanical parts like brakes and rotors ??
couldn't you ceramic coat your block, crank, rods, pistons, heads, valves and intake ?? Seems to me it would make for a much smoother, cooler running motor with more hp ??? That would also be longer lasting...But I could be dead wrong...

Mr.Fixit 10-30-2002 11:43 AM

Why would you want to thermal insulate all your engine (or brake) components? You need you engine parts to be able to rid themselves of heat by transferring it to the oil. The coatings that they put on piston tops and combustion chambers are different that those on the exhaust. Ceramic exhaust coating can and does chip off too.

Jeff Frigo 10-30-2002 11:48 AM

Try these guys:

Swain Coatings

Mr.Fixit 10-30-2002 12:05 PM

Yeah those are the guys who's name I coudn't remember. Notice they use three different coatings on intakes alone: Bottom is heat reflective barrier, top is improved emmissivity (heat loss), inside runners for lower friction. One coating does not fit all applictions. Anybody out there try nitrocarburizing on gears, cams, or what-have-you? Burlington in the name of a company that does it.

JAM1775 11-01-2002 08:21 AM

Thanks for the website Jeff ! Great guys !
I am on the phone with Swain as we speak !
They recommend a satin black coating for the intake they
say dissipates heat off the intake when used with their inside
thermal coating. Full thermal treatment is about $450.
They advised against outside ceramic coating
stating it actually keeps heat INSIDE the intake. At the least I may send them the intake to have the botton heat barrier treated for $110. I would like to maintain a shiny look on the intake.

Cracker 04-15-2003 07:36 PM

I have my sidewinder intake coated with HPC's silver finish ceramic and it is very easy to keep clean. I don't know if it helps or hurts the perfomance but it sure does look nice and doesn't stain (at least easily). I am swithing to a single plane edelbrock and coating it along with the expansion tank (try keeping paint on that for any lenght of time) the timing cover, alternator body, remote oil filter adapter, etc. All in matching and lasting coatings. Do it and you will not regret it!

Tony Hull

RACERAL 04-15-2003 07:53 PM

use the cryogenic process on the high ware parts..www.300below.com

Brent Mills 04-15-2003 08:13 PM

Here's my intake, which I will use again on the next engine....It was done by finishline coatings in Oregon. Topside ceramachrome and bottom black.

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d.../945424273.jpg

JAM1775 04-16-2003 06:43 PM

Really nice piece Brent !

ls1ac 04-23-2003 09:11 PM

FYI
For the inside of the engine, after cryo, some racers are using dycronite (sp) coatings. For more info you can call Norm at Westech Auto 262-889-4346
A dry lub is often Moly that has been cooked onto the skirts of the pistons. Sometimes a light cross hatch is used to add depth to the coating.


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