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PaulProe 08-10-2007 08:36 AM

Oil Thermostat selection
 
I know I need to run an oil thermostat in my FE/Oil Cooler setup. But not having any previous experience with the brands, are there pros/cons between these two:

Earls 502ERL sandwich type $100
or
Perma-Cool remote type $45 plus $15 in AN adapters

Other than price difference, is one preferred over the other?

Thanks

Paul

bobcowan 08-10-2007 10:21 AM

They both work the same, no functional differance. I prefer the Sandwich type.

The remote thermostat works a little better with a remote oil filter.

427sharpe 08-10-2007 10:39 AM

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I dislike the sandwich plate due to packaging concerns and the permacool's can be iffy due to quality concerns with the casting (search for info). I use a Mocal unit that comes made with -10 connections (no adapters, saves $$) and has an extremely good reputation for quality. I have used mine for years without issue. Flow is very good as I had very little pressure drop after install. Good luck with your choice.
Find them here:
http://racerpartswholesale.com/mocal.htm

priobe 08-10-2007 02:15 PM

Is it required to run an oil Thermostat with an oil cooler even in sunny hot miami?

427sharpe 08-10-2007 02:29 PM

Yes. Getting the oil up to correct temp is vital for longevity. I must run one here in 'sunny, hot' Texas to stabilize oil temps. Just make sure you get one with a built in bypass to keep the oil cooler free of air pockets and sludge.

Randy Rosenberg 08-10-2007 03:30 PM

Any thoughts on the Canton Oil Thermo: http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/...ermostats.html

Roscoe 08-10-2007 03:51 PM

OOOOOHHHHH...Randy....that's one nice thermostat.

Roscoe

RedBarchetta 08-10-2007 04:29 PM

Easy to install, too. ;)

bobcowan 08-10-2007 09:31 PM

Earle's makes a couple of nice billit alum thermostats. I'm using their sandwich type. Much better construction that older cast alum ones. They also make one that looks like a solid block of alum. Similar design as the Mocal one above, but looks differant.

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...502erl_w_m.jpg

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...501erl_w_m.jpg

J Persons 08-11-2007 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobcowan
Earle's makes a couple of nice billit alum thermostats. I'm using their sandwich type. Much better construction that older cast alum ones. They also make one that looks like a solid block of alum. Similar design as the Mocal one above, but looks differant.

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...502erl_w_m.jpg

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...501erl_w_m.jpg

I'm using the Earls block type. Seems to work very well, and doesn't take up much room. It has -10 in and out ports and a built in by pass.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...line/001-1.jpg

CJ428CJ 08-14-2007 10:21 AM

PaulProe,

I bought the Earl's sandwich type but it's just a little too big to fit on my ERA. There's not enough room for the hose connections to clear the frame. If you're interested in buying it, I'll let it go for $75 including shipping. I did try to install it so it has a few minor cosmetic scratches but nothing major. I can send you some photos if you want to check it out. You can email me direct if you're interested. cj428cj@comcast.net

Chris

427sharpe 08-14-2007 11:04 AM

CJ: thats the same problem I had w/ sandwich types.
J Persons: Underhood looks nice! Where did you get the radiator expansion tank mounted near the wheelwell?

J Persons 08-14-2007 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 427sharpe
CJ: thats the same problem I had w/ sandwich types.
J Persons: Underhood looks nice! Where did you get the radiator expansion tank mounted near the wheelwell?

www.fortesparts.com He calls it a degas tank, but IMO, it's an expansion tank. I modified this one by adding a bung to connect to the upper left side of the radiator via a -4 line, so any air that might be trapped in the radiator would be sent to the expansion tank. Forte sells three versions of the tank, all are designed for FFR's, but could easily be adapted to other makes. John

Frank Messina 08-14-2007 03:44 PM

I just went through this drill and really took the long way around the barn. I bought the Earls 502 planning to mount it on the block. NG, too many things in the way so I wound up buying a Canton billet remote filter mount and a Canton billet filter relocater. Works great but here's a tip. If you elect to go with the sandwich thermostat you must use a large remote mount like the Canton billet piece that covers both O-rings on the sandwich or it will leak. Don't ask me how I know.
Frank

Frank Messina 08-15-2007 03:53 PM

This is a pic of the wrong package that leaks like a sieve.
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d.../DSC00076R.JPG
This is the Canton mount which easily covers the Earls sandwich O-rings.
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d.../DSC00103R.JPG
Frank


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