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patrickt 10-31-2008 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fordzilla (Post 894148)
My block is also a Genesis so I don't think there is anything Ford in or on my FE!

So you don't really have a dog in this fight... right? :p

Don 10-31-2008 08:58 AM

The non-automotive/racing 427 casting numbers, 1965 & 1966, for:

Industrial: C5JE-D & C7JE-E

Marine: C6JE-B & C7JE-A

undy 10-31-2008 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fordzilla (Post 894148)
I never thought that much about it but your right. My block is also a Genesis so I don't think there is anything Ford in or on my FE!
Regards,

Don't fret, you probably (Partick too) still have an OEM timing cover.. That's all that's original with mine.

Dave

patrickt 10-31-2008 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by undy (Post 894206)
Don't fret, you probably (Patrick too) still have an OEM timing cover.. That's all that's original with mine.

I think you're right. That, and the rebuilt starter motor.

RodKnock 10-31-2008 09:49 AM

I have an Autolite alternator on my CSX aluminum block 482. Ruff. Ruff.:LOL:

Did the OP ever get us his casting numbers?

Excaliber 10-31-2008 10:19 AM

I don't think the internals of the engine make a great deal of difference on your personal ride, as far as the engine goes from an authenticity stand point. For myself, when I rebuilt my side oiler I did want to keep it as original as possible. But I was sure was tempted to go with more modern, stronger, better parts. There was some fear about using those 40 year old Le Mans rods, for instance. I dumped the soild roller cam and went with a flat tappet with specs that would have been available 'back in the day'. I retained the iron heads, but considered the weight savings I would have to give up by not using alloy. I retained the original alloy 2X4 intake. I ran even ran an old points and condensor distributor for awhile! I was bummed I had to settle for a 428 crank and considered buying a 427 crank with stock stroke. In short, I wanted to build the motor as close to original specs as I reasonably could. I wanted to get a feel for what it was like 'back in the day'. I did it for ME, not to impress anyone, not to recommend that style to anyone, just something I wanted to do.

I feel pretty good about and take a lot of pride in that motor, it's part of the fun factor for myself.

The point type distributor got old in a hurry! It would miss badly after 6000 rpm or so and I'm left wondering HOW they got more rpm out a points style distributor back in the day. Currently MSD, with a red cap, I hate seeing that... :)

FatBoy 10-31-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Excaliber (Post 894224)
Currently MSD, with a red cap, I hate seeing that... :)

I also have a "red" MSD dizzy, but the cap has been painted satin black by Bill at Southern Automotive. It look much better than the garish red caps. :)

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d.../DSC_00124.jpg

Paul

BTW. It's now installed and running, but I don't have a decent picture. :)

Excaliber 10-31-2008 10:47 AM

...I gotta get me some black satin paint... :)

patrickt 10-31-2008 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Excaliber (Post 894231)
...I gotta get me some black satin paint... :)

I think the black MSD 84333 fits our Pro-Billet Ford FE Distributors. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm mistaken.;)

http://www.msdignition.com/uploadedi...84333_full.jpg

RodKnock 10-31-2008 10:59 AM

[quote=FatBoy;894228]I also have a "red" MSD dizzy, but the cap has been painted satin black by Bill at Southern Automotive. It look much better than the garish red caps. :) Paul

Well, at least I don't have "bumble bee" yellow spark plug wires!

I have to look into painting my cap too. Seems like a lot of work and you only get an increase of 5 HP. :LOL:

FatBoy 10-31-2008 11:46 AM

[quote=RodKnock;894235]
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Originally Posted by FatBoy (Post 894228)
I also have a "red" MSD dizzy, but the cap has been painted satin black by Bill at Southern Automotive. It look much better than the garish red caps. :) Paul

Well, at least I don't have "bumble bee" yellow spark plug wires!

I have to look into painting my cap too. Seems like a lot of work and you only get an increase of 5 HP. :LOL:

Only 5 HP?, I got at least 20 by painting mine. :LOL:

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend with my "garish" comment. It was only relevant if you were going for the "original" look. :o

Paul

Excaliber 10-31-2008 11:50 AM

Thanks for the heads up from a CC member who pointed out Club Cobra in general, myself and Mr. Mustang in particular, are being trashed talked by ng8264723 on his favored FE site.

Yet another trash talking newbie. I don't appreciate your ADVERTISING another site here on Club Cobra, let alone trash talking THIS site! Buy a banner ad and put your money where your mouth is.

patrickt 10-31-2008 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Excaliber (Post 894253)
..Club Cobra in general, myself and Mr. Mustang in particular, are being trashed talked by ng8264723 on his favored FE site.

I saw that thread the other day. Just ignore it and shake it off. You and MM add flavor to the posts, whether you guys are right, wrong, or in between. :D

RodKnock 10-31-2008 12:31 PM

Paul, no offense taken. I like kidding around. I don't like the red cap either.

Patrickt, thanks for the heads up on the black cap. My painting skills aren't very good. I was always the kid with model car that fingerprints in it since the paint was way too thick.

Slamming people on other sites, let alone slamming people on this site, for their opinions just isn't proper. We all have opinions, and we all have opinions on other people's opinions. Just agree to disagree. Even the big shots in the engine world, or any industry for that matter, can be wrong sometimes. No one is perfect and I'm first in that line.

JeepSnake 10-31-2008 01:35 PM

MSD black cap
 
Patrickt,

You are correct. I am running one on the Pro-Billet in my 351W (originally equipped with the Ford "big cap" and that hideous cap adapter). Don't know about the FE, but on the Windsor, I just had to cut off the L-shaped, spring-loaded mounting "screws" that came on this cap, and use the regular screws that came with the Pro-Billet instead. The Pro-Billet base had tapped holes for both the Ford pattern and the Chevy pattern caps (which is what this cap is).

It is a welcome addition to the MSD lineup for those of us that like a more subtle/stock appearance!

BTW, anybody know what MSD coats their can-type coils (e.g. Blaster) in? I tried painting my extremely red Blaster coil black, only to find that the paint would shed off at the least touch. Wound up stripping it to bare metal before it would take primer and paint. The red coating seemed to be a cross between an epoxy and rubber of some sort???

Fordzilla 10-31-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by undy (Post 894206)
Don't fret, you probably (Partick too) still have an OEM timing cover.. That's all that's original with mine.

Dave

Thanks Dave, I feel better about it now! LOL

patrickt 10-31-2008 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepSnake (Post 894283)
BTW, anybody know what MSD coats their can-type coils (e.g. Blaster) in? I tried painting my extremely red Blaster coil black, only to find that the paint would shed off at the least touch.

Uhh, if you go with the high-vibration blaster coil it's already black. ;)

http://www.msdignition.com/uploadedi.../8222_full.jpg


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