Thor: pat is correct. The issue is best Ford engine for the $ power wise.
I assure you that the guys here aren't operating under some illusion that just because they put an FE or 289 In there car has birth right to be a real Cobra.
You are missing the entire point of the hobby. The Cobra is the most replicated car in history primarily for it's legendary performance and ease of replication not to mention it's good looks.;) the hobby is a celebration of the car and it's history and the legendary men at SAI that made it happen. A pride the American "can do" spirit that beat the worlds best. I suspect this has something to do with the fact many want this little car to retain the Ford DNA it started with.
The ease of replication is primarily based on it's Ford powered DNA. Some guys want their car to be a clone of the original and exact as possible. Some just want to keep it in the family by staying Ford powered as long as it produces prodigious Cobra like performance and sound
Your Ferrari and Lambo analogy is off the mark. They are hard to replicate for many reasons and impossible to replicate accurately and just aren't for the most part. They are shunned by the real Ferrari and Lambo owners. There is no one car they celebrating.
It's not the same. If your a Cobra guy you get it.:MECOOL:
Well said!:D
patrickt
02-19-2012 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by littlewave
(Post 1176705)
Well said!:D
Uhhh, as a general rule, any post that starts off with "Pat is correct" is going to be spot on. It's kind of like saying "feeding hungry children is a good thing." You really just can't go wrong when you begin a post either way.:cool:
Silverback51
02-19-2012 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
(Post 1176710)
Uhhh, as a general rule, any post that starts off with "Pat is correct" is going to be spot on. It's kind of like saying "feeding hungry children is a good thing." You really just can't go wrong when you begin a post either way.:cool:
Please, please, please. Someone get a pin and stick him in his ego. ;):D:LOL:
blykins
02-19-2012 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
(Post 1176683)
If I'm going to drop $15k in your pocket, I'd rather have you build me an FE.:cool:
$15k would probably build a 750-800hp 385 series engine...naturally aspirated.
RACER X #99
02-19-2012 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by REAL 1
(Post 1176699)
Roger: can you get the 5.0 with track key technology in a crate motor?
I think that is reserved for the Boss Mustang only.
Check with Johnny Mac when he get's his.
RodKnock
02-19-2012 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RACER X #99
(Post 1176696)
This stock Coyote will probably put most Fe's to shame. After all isn't this what most Cobra guys like to do.
I'll see your Coyote and raise you an FE:
REAL 1
02-19-2012 02:58 PM
Thanks. Will do.
fordracing65
02-19-2012 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RACER X #99
(Post 1176751)
I think that is reserved for the Boss Mustang only.
Check with Johnny Mac when he get's his.
No track key with Coyote, and not fully forged internals in Coyote, among other things explains the Boss price difference.
AL427SBF
02-19-2012 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
(Post 1176771)
I'll see your Coyote and raise you an FE:
You guys hung up on drags as the measure of cobra performance are missing the point completely on what this car was desigbed for. I'll raise your FE with a pinto :LOL: 1971 Ford Pinto Funny Car
fordracing65
02-19-2012 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AL427SBF
(Post 1176791)
You guys hung up on drags as the measure of cobra performance are missing the point completely on what this car was desigbed for. I'll raise your FE with a pinto :LOL: 1971 Ford Pinto Funny Car
Google Bruce Cambern cobra #3170, he won the Optima track challenge with an FE, It was designed to do both.
Silverback51
02-19-2012 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fordracing65
(Post 1176795)
Google Bruce Cambern cobra #3170, he won the Optima track challenge with an FE, It was designed to do both.
And so dominated the event he was asked not to return with that car.
RodKnock
02-19-2012 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AL427SBF
(Post 1176791)
You guys hung up on drags as the measure of cobra performance are missing the point completely on what this car was desigbed for. I'll raise your FE with a pinto :LOL:
I'm not hung up on anything. The post I responded to was a clip of an SPF with a Coyote doing burnouts on the street, so I paralleled his post with a clip of a drag racing encounter.
I'm sure there are/were a couple of reasonably successful 427 Cobras on the road race course too. To be sure, I would have to check my Shelby World Registry though, because I don't have those 427 Cobra facts at my fingertips. :rolleyes:
REAL 1
02-19-2012 08:18 PM
427 comp cars did have success in USRRC. For example 1966 Sebring first in class CSX 3016. Numerous SCCA A production titles.
4pipes
02-19-2012 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fordracing65
(Post 1176782)
No track key with Coyote, and not fully forged internals in Coyote, among other things explains the Boss price difference.
You can buy the exact engine in the Boss 302 from Ford Racing:
[quote=RodKnock;1176505]Oops, you forgot one little phrase at the end of the OP's sentence.
".....all else being equal."
My interpretation of that says that all else isn't equal because I (and others) wouldn't even consider installing a SBF or 385 in a 427 Cobra. No way. No how. :p
So what you are saying is that Ford built no other engines?
I don't remember the OP saying "for a cobra" or any other vehicle. Don't get me wrong here, I love FE's and am working on putting a nice aluminum tunnelport in my car someday but the question was pretty clear and I believe the OP was looking for non biased answers. In fact this thread is so old he probably isn't around anymore.
RACER X #99
02-20-2012 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
(Post 1176771)
I'll see your Coyote and raise you an FE:
OK I'll raise you this Mustang small block against any Cobra with any engine.:LOL:
You guys hung up on drags as the measure of cobra performance are missing the point completely on what this car was desigbed for. I'll raise your FE with a pinto :LOL: 1971 Ford Pinto Funny Car
There was also the DragonSnake"For a lot of us me included it is about drag racing,when it needs to be.Fortunetly these cars can be great road course cars,provided they are set up correctly.Win or lose in the end with my name on the title I will always win! Yes, I got it a long time ago when I hoped and prayed that one day I could own one of these fantastic vehicles,and finally did.This car satisfies me in every way,immune from any critisizm by anyone.Walking through the shop and seeing it sitting there is enough to stir the emotions,life is good.I own the best bang for the buck it's called a COBRA powered by a big block FORD!
Oops, you forgot one little phrase at the end of the OP's sentence.
".....all else being equal."
My interpretation of that says that all else isn't equal because I (and others) wouldn't even consider installing a SBF or 385 in a 427 Cobra. No way. No how. :p
So what you are saying is that Ford built no other engines?
I don't remember the OP saying "for a cobra" or any other vehicle. Don't get me wrong here, I love FE's and am working on putting a nice aluminum tunnelport in my car someday but the question was pretty clear and I believe the OP was looking for non biased answers. In fact this thread is so old he probably isn't around anymore.
This is a Cobra Forum and nearly everything folks write here is biased opinion(s). I thought I would add mine. The OP's question, to me, is left up to the interpretation of the reader.
A 427 Cobra always requires an FE. ;) This is my biased opinion. :)
