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11-11-2010, 02:23 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by Got the Bug
Guess Patrick's threads are just ageless.  |
Yes, and I get grace for providing so much happiness to others.  |
11-11-2010, 01:16 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Cobra Make, Engine: shellvalley 428 ford
Posts: 404
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My Shell Valley and my NAF car as well.
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11-11-2010, 02:33 PM
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Sounds to me like were all just a little bit jaded. Ok so most of the Cobras out there can do this, and I remain impressed that mine can as well. But it's not quite as simple as where to place the jack or how high you have to jack it up.
Fact is, the bulk of these frames are dam stiff, the short wheel base helps. I've had plenty (MOST in fact) cars where it was very difficult to get two wheels off the ground in this manner. Oh sure, if you jack it up high enough, I guess. I can tell you with my ERA, I don't have to jack it up very high at all to do it and it really doesn't matter WHERE I put the jack on one side.
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11-11-2010, 02:55 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Excaliber
I can tell you with my ERA, I don't have to jack it up very high at all to do it and it really doesn't matter WHERE I put the jack on one side.
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11-11-2010, 03:15 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Alexander,
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Cobra Make, Engine: B&B 427 Stroked Windsor TKO 600 w/3.50 posi 9"
Posts: 789
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It's not how stiff the frame is or where the jack is so much as massive sway bars!
Not always the best outcome for good rear traction under hard cornering!
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11-11-2010, 03:36 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: starke,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Classic Car Co. replica of 1966 Cobra made in 1988 with big block bowtie (600 hp 454), Bought about 4 months ago
Posts: 80
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Kinda cool.  Here's a shot of my ERA with the jack under the frame at the front wheel -- the front wheel is a couple of inches above the ground. I had a trouble light lying on the garage floor behind the rear wheel and you can see the back wheel is also off the ground. Now we've all heard horror stories about the rigidity of the original Cobra's frame. Do the new Shelby cars pick the rear wheel up when you jack the front wheel? Or are the continuation frames "wiggly" like the originals?
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same thing happens to my cobra when you jack up one of the rear tires, the other rear tire will be off the ground also. rigid!
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11-11-2010, 03:37 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: starke,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Classic Car Co. replica of 1966 Cobra made in 1988 with big block bowtie (600 hp 454), Bought about 4 months ago
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same thing happens to my cobra when you jack up one of the rear tires, the other side will be off the ground also. rigid!!
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09-25-2011, 05:59 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Kimberley,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadsters, 429
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Kinda cool. Here's a shot of my ERA with the jack under the frame at the front wheel -- the front wheel is a couple of inches above the ground. I had a trouble light lying on the garage floor behind the rear wheel and you can see the back wheel is also off the ground. Now we've all heard horror stories about the rigidity of the original Cobra's frame. Do the new Shelby cars pick the rear wheel up when you jack the front wheel? Or are the continuation frames "wiggly" like the originals?
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09-25-2011, 08:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Santa Cruz,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
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Love these Rip Van Winkle threads that come back to life.
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09-25-2011, 08:15 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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09-25-2011, 10:56 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Brunswick,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 1311 428PI
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09-25-2011, 09:42 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Outside Miami,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Several
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If you jack-up the left front tire (not just the frame) at the ball joint (carefully) and the right-front tire comes off the ground you have a mighty strong anti-roll bar!
If you jack up the left front frame and the left rear tire comes off the ground, you have a fairly stiff frame.
Our McLaren's mono-cocque chassis approaches 10,000 FtLb of torque per degree of twist, front to back. For sure the all alloy Kirkham is quite similar, by design intent. Don't know about the "regular" chassis. Perhaps the SS is stiffer than the mild steel...
Our AC Cars Chassis ('92) is much less than half that amount. It already has lateral internal stiffeners (plates) welded in place. Didn't keep the measurement data from the tests. Sorry.
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10-13-2011, 12:37 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Huntsville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates, 545 stroker
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