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daytona coupe
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daytona coupe
i am looking to buy or trade for a daytona coupe. i would like to know which kit would b the best handaling for a road track? I want the most competitive daytona I can get
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| Bernica |
06-05-2016 10:35 AM |
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| cobrakiwi |
06-05-2016 11:28 AM |
I would look at the Kirkham coupe, I looked at one in progress at the Kirkham shop late last year. Very nice!
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| Bernica |
06-05-2016 11:32 AM |
I should have suggested Kirkham as well. Yes, very nice cars to be sure!:cool:
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| Jac Mac |
06-05-2016 02:08 PM |
Be handy to know what class of racing you intend to participate in, if its historic with strict rules in regard to originality then the above suggestions are good, but if its a more open/run what you have event then some of the other kits with larger brakes and stronger suspension & chassis would be a better bet.
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| Bernica |
06-05-2016 02:15 PM |
I agree with JacMac. It would also be useful to know your budget.:confused:
You can spend a stack of 2,000 $100 bills on these pretty quick!;)
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Daytona.
I think I'm starting to understand. It's all about the $. What about a factory five w the independent suspension. Not vintage. I want to b able to kick a Porsche GT 3's ass on track days. :LOL: a
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| Bernica |
06-05-2016 06:52 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabe
(Post 1393855)
I think I'm starting to understand. It's all about the $. What about a factory five w the independent suspension. Not vintage. I want to b able to kick a Porsche GT 3's ass on track days. :LOL: a
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Your driving skills will play more a part of that, as well as a properly track-prepped car. Just sayin' |
Factory Five's coupe has a very stout chassis. Good basis for a race car. IRS is available but the 3-link will work very well and is less expensive. If accuracy to original isn't your area of interest, it'll work well.
If you don't have track experience/training, take a class. It'll help as much as the car. Anyone can pour it on when you get to the straight away. It's the corners and braking that count.
Larry
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| Bernica |
06-05-2016 08:12 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by LMH
(Post 1393862)
Factory Five's coupe has a very stout chassis. Good basis for a race car. IRS is available but the 3-link will work very well and is less expensive. If accuracy to original isn't your area of interest, it'll work well.
If you don't have track experience/training, take a class. It'll help as much as the car. Anyone can pour it on when you get to the straight away. It's the corners and braking that count.
Larry
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Yup, what Larry said x2.
You want to chase GT3's, then you need a purpose-built car with the brakes and handling to get you there. You can do it, but highly recommend some serious track training. My 2 c. |
| Jac Mac |
06-05-2016 08:40 PM |
+1 on above, was just looking at GT3 lap records for our local track here in NZ, about 3.5 sec a lap faster than the TVR I have a bit to do with, it would need another ~50 cubes and five speed plus slicks to get down to those times, currently all alloy (346) 4.125 x 3.25 SBF, Jerico 4sp and IRS 9"+ trutrac on hoosiers ( 9") wide and driver is very experienced. Think light & strong on your chassis... in fact think light thru all your build.
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| Bernica |
06-05-2016 08:45 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jac Mac
(Post 1393865)
+1 on above, was just looking at GT3 lap records for our local track here in NZ, about 3.5 sec a lap faster than the TVR I have a bit to do with, it would need another ~50 cubes and five speed plus slicks to get down to those times, currently all alloy (346) 4.125 x 3.25 SBF, Jerico 4sp and IRS 9"+ trutrac on hoosiers ( 9") wide and driver is very experienced. Think light & strong on your chassis... in fact think light thru all your build.
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Yup. Like I said, it needs to be purpose-built. Good recap JacMac. Says it all!;):cool: |
so what we r saying is the factory five suspension with IRS is not enough to chase down a porsche gt3. dont worry about the driving skills. Leave that to me.lets just say i got the skills. just want the daytona to b able to do it.
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| Ron61 |
06-06-2016 03:43 AM |
Gabe,
I had a roadster with the 3 link and though I never raced against the GT3s often they normally would beat me if the drivers never messed up. I now have a factory Five Coupe with the Independent rear suspension and it is every bit as fast and well handling on our track as the 3 link in the roadster was. Both of my cars were set up for this though and until I quit racing I was always adjusting on them as track conditions change. I now just drive the Coupe for enjoyment and had the power cut way back so I can run the crap they call pump gas out here in it.
Ron
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabe
(Post 1393908)
so what we r saying is the factory five suspension with IRS is not enough to chase down a porsche gt3. dont worry about the driving skills. Leave that to me.lets just say i got the skills. just want the daytona to b able to do it.
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The IRS car would probably out perform the 3 link with all other parts being equal but it's a lot more expensive and it would take someone with a lot more than average skills to do it. In the FFR, I don't like how the upper link isn't triangulated to the chassis but that's just my opinion. It also needs 31 spline joints/differential for racing strength. All adds to the cost. If you have the money and want to spend it, be my guest!
Larry |
| 1985 CCX |
06-06-2016 11:27 AM |
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| Bernica |
06-06-2016 11:47 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabe
(Post 1393908)
so what we r saying is the factory five suspension with IRS is not enough to chase down a porsche gt3. dont worry about the driving skills. Leave that to me.lets just say i got the skills. just want the daytona to b able to do it.
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Not questioning your skills. Just trying to make sure you are all in. |
| YerDugliness |
06-06-2016 01:13 PM |
It's a bit expensive, but have you considered the Superformance Daytona?
...an added plus for the SPF Daytona is roll-up windows in the doors...for those days when you absolutely MUST drive the race car on the streets....
Just a thought...
Cheers!!
Dugly :cool:
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| Bernica |
06-06-2016 03:19 PM |
Yes, Superformance is another good option.
Are you after beating one certain GT3 or all of them? If the latter, then don't forget that pesky GT3R! You can spend a lot more chasing him down!;):cool::cool:
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| Luke427 |
07-02-2016 02:14 PM |
It depends which GT3 we're talking about and the driver in the GT3 as well ;)
I've raced a lot on Porsche and these are fast cars when handled properly. I would bet that on a known track, I'd be faster with a stock old 996 GT3 than with my Cobra that has a solid 100hp extra and a very decent chassis (even if still not setup to my taste).
This may not mean the GT3 is a faster car - it's that I know 911's pretty well and know what their strengths and weaknesses are. On the braking and cornering they're very hard to beat.
There are more good Porsche than Cobra drivers out there ;)
Best,
Luke
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