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Scotchman 05-07-2014 11:55 AM

Oil pressure sending unit failure
 
My 3rd oil pressure sending unit just took a dump. They were all from factory Five, and originally came with the kit. I have the electrical gauges that also came with the kit. Is there a better sending unit I can get ?

lippy 05-07-2014 12:00 PM

You may want to check out Summit and see if they have any SW or other ones. I've never had a problem with any.

patrickt 05-07-2014 12:12 PM

Go mechanical. If I looked down and saw zero oil pressure on my gauge (while driving) I would shi* a brick. Then, after i pulled off to the side of the road, I'd have to figure out a way to check the oil pressure without starting it. The only way I know to do that is to pull the distributor and spin the pump by hand. Not being able to do that by the side of the road, I'd have to be towed home. Once would be irritating enough, but twice... no, thrice? You gotta be kidding... trash that POS and get a mechanical gauge.:cool:

FWB 05-07-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1299357)
Go mechanical. If I looked down and saw zero oil pressure on my gauge (while driving) I would shi* a brick. Then, after i pulled off to the side of the road, I'd have to figure out a way to check the oil pressure without starting it. The only way I know to do that is to pull the distributor and spin the pump by hand. Not being able to do that by the side of the road, I'd have to be towed home. Once would be irritating enough, but twice... no, thrice? You gotta be kidding... trash that POS and get a mechanical gauge.:cool:


and the mechanical gauge does this better on the side of the road because you didn't know to turn the key to on to get the electrical sender to work?

i am just busting you..
as in all the years i've been screwing around with cars my electrical gauge has been just dandy. the 10 psi it may or may not be off means nothing with 60 psi of OP. after my first capillary tube hit my header and sprayed oil freakin everywhere i was done with mechanicals, yes they are differnt now but, why not use modern electric components.
if you start with good quality stuff it should last your lifetime

remember we are not doing le mans, these are street cars, oh and with zero OP the sound of the motor should tell you if it is correct or not.....the clatter would be deafening

patrickt 05-07-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FWB (Post 1299370)
and the mechanical gauge does this better on the side of the road because you didn't know to turn the key to on to get the electrical sender to work?

i am just busting you..
as in all the years i've been screwing around with cars my electrical gauge has been just dandy. the 10 psi it may or may not be off means nothing with 60 psi of OP. after my first capillary tube hit my header and sprayed oil freakin everywhere i was done with mechanicals, yes they are differnt now but, why not use modern electric components.
if you start with good quality stuff it should last your lifetime

remember we are not doing le mans, these are street cars

Uhhh, just how much oil pressure do you think a car has when the key is on and it is not running?

FWB 05-07-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1299371)
Uhhh, just how much oil pressure do you think a car has when the key is on and it is not running?

your post says you spin the oil pump by hand..........
whether its a mech or electric gauge you can see OP

patrickt 05-07-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FWB (Post 1299372)
your post says you spin the oil pump by hand..........
whether its a mech or electric gauge you can see OP

With the valve cover off to see if the oil is squirting out. We know the gauge says zero, so there's no point in continuing to look at it. The other option is to start the car up... which is a roll of the dice.

FWB 05-07-2014 01:28 PM

i think if you just turned down the best of Aaba CD you would have heard the motor isn't chattering:D

patrickt 05-07-2014 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FWB (Post 1299375)
i think if you just turned down the best of Aaba CD you would have heard the motor isn't chattering:D

Most of us would not feel comfortable looking down at our oil pressure, seeing that it read zero, but just continuing on as if nothing had happened....:JEKYLHYDE

Gr8Cobra 05-07-2014 04:59 PM

Scott I am experiencing some of the same issues. On the trip to Kingman my oil pressure went from 40 to 80 more than once and back to 0. I had this happen while running around town as well. I have not changed out my sender as yet so my question is what brand is suggested to help stabilize the readings?

Scotchman 05-07-2014 05:17 PM

Gr8,
There is no info on my sending unit. It came from Factory Five, and I haven't been able to find another supplier or replacement. My pressure fluctuated from 20-50 psi, and sometimes went to zero on the Fun Run. There are 2 terminals on top of the unit where 2 wires connect. I've e-mailed FFR to find out my options. I'd like to upgrade it. It's become a pain in the A#$%@!!.

FWB 05-07-2014 06:17 PM

the gauge manufacturer and type will dictate the sender, there isn't usually a mix and match option. so what gauge is in there? autometer, smiths, stewart warner?
and the indexing, like 0 to 80 or 0 to 100, that's the info you will need to acquire the sender.

DaleG 05-07-2014 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Scotchman (Post 1299412)
Gr8,
There is no info on my sending unit. It came from Factory Five, and I haven't been able to find another supplier or replacement. My pressure fluctuated from 20-50 psi, and sometimes went to zero on the Fun Run. There are 2 terminals on top of the unit where 2 wires connect. I've e-mailed FFR to find out my options. I'd like to upgrade it. It's become a pain in the A#$%@!!.

Get a sender from Speedhut. Call them and tell them what kind of gauge you have; they will fix you up.

Scotchman 05-07-2014 07:53 PM

FWB,
0-100 psi with no other label on the gauge. No info on the sender part itself. Just an S and a G next to the terminals. Probably from China. If it were a Ford part wouldn't it be labeled ?

Car Nut 05-08-2014 08:52 AM

Post deleted.

FWB 05-08-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Scotchman (Post 1299432)
FWB,
0-100 psi with no other label on the gauge. No info on the sender part itself. Just an S and a G next to the terminals. Probably from China. If it were a Ford part wouldn't it be labeled ?

post a picture of the gauge. someone will recognize it.....

mikiec 05-08-2014 09:59 AM

That must have been real bad if you deleted it.

Gr8Cobra 05-08-2014 10:36 AM

My gauges are VDO and it reads 0-80. It has a single wire for the signal. So what I am hearing is I need to use a VDO sender? I was juhst wondering if another manufacturer would work if if reads 0-80. I will check with Speed Hut to see what they recommend.

Rick Parker 05-08-2014 10:48 AM

The switch is nothing more than a variable resistor attached to ground. If you can determine the OHM rating range which is often stamped on the wrenching flats of the switch, you could possiibly get one a better quality one at NAPA or Oriellys etc.

Scotchman 05-08-2014 10:53 AM

Thanks Dale,
I just ordered a new sending unit from Speed Hut. $37 delivered. They had another option to upgrade the sending unit, harness, and a rebuild of my gauge with better components for only $89 plus shipping, but I would have had to rewire the whole thing. I'm going to give it one more try, and maybe next time, change it all.


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