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genolan 11-21-2013 12:05 PM

Engine choice
 
OK

I'm still looking at several BDR's and was wondering what is the best engine choice.

Ford Racing 302, 351w, 408 stroker , 427 Stroker or big block

I'm looking for power, roar and reliability.

Cashburn 11-21-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by genolan (Post 1272902)
OK

I'm still looking at several BDR's and was wondering what is the best engine choice.

Ford Racing 302, 351w, 408 stroker , 427 Stroker or big block

I'm looking for power, roar and reliability.

What is your budget?

genolan 11-21-2013 12:36 PM

Under 40k

Cashburn 11-21-2013 12:40 PM

You should be able to find a 302 or 351W car under 40k about 5-7 years old. If you have a few extra bills under the bed, this one will list soon:

$42k

http://www.vintage-motorsports.com/e...0/BDR700-1.jpg
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http://www.vintage-motorsports.com/e...0/BDR700-3.jpg
http://www.vintage-motorsports.com/e...0/BDR700-4.jpg
http://www.vintage-motorsports.com/e...0/BDR700-5.jpg

genolan 11-21-2013 12:42 PM

PM me the details please

Cashburn 11-21-2013 01:02 PM

My PM box is almost always full... here are the details.

Car #700 was originally assembled in FL. Monterey Red with Ghost Stripes (lighter). Interior is tan with embroidery denoting it is car #700. Engine is a Roush 427SR. It has 9,000 or so miles on it. Tan Cloth Soft Top. 17" Knock Off Wheels. 1965 Title/Registration. Engine was leaking from back of block so we have that completely out to service entire car. Oil got on clutch of course so that will be new as well. A few chips and scratches from 9,000 miles and some dull spots that should buff out (we are not at detail stage yet).

We don't usually have consignments in this price range but the owner needs to move on. We priced aggressively due to the color, miles, and the owner has a loan so it has to be bought out through the bank etc. to get the title so for that "hassle" and rework $42k is the number.

bobcowan 11-21-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by genolan (Post 1272902)
OK
I'm looking for power, roar and reliability.

There's no perfect answer to this question. But, I think the best bang for the buck for a street car will come from a well built 408W. When you start comparing other engines, you won't see the same $/hp numbers.

No matter what engine you choose, be vary careful about who built it, and what components they use. Companies like Fortes Parts and Lykins Motorsports have had an excellent reputation for many years.

Other companies, not so much. They use cheap parts - like Pro-Comp. Or use mismatched parts. Their assembly techniques are not that good. And/or, their after sales support stinks.

As you're looking at the engine, as where it came from, and then do your research on that particular company or builder. Also, ask exactly what components were used, and research those particular components.

Dwight 11-21-2013 06:35 PM

My vote would be for the 408 stroker


Dwight

twin turbo 11-21-2013 07:04 PM

If you go 427 Windsor, make sure it's has an aftermarket block such as Dart, etc.

RICK LAKE 11-22-2013 04:19 AM

Need a little more info
 
Genolan Need some info on the other parts of the drive train. 4spd,5spd,6pd, auto? Rearend ratio? size of tires? What are you looking for in this car? Shows, cruising, autocross and road racing? Picking a motor is like picking a woman%/. For the motor, what rpm are you looking to turn? Silly power and nasty, a 408-427 stroker. What material do you want the motor of? Aluminum or Iron. Weight savings of about 50-100 pounds on the front end. If you can help with some of these question we can narrow down the beast.;) Rick L. After this we can also narrow down the better machine shops and builders for your motor. What clutch are you looking at? This relates to how much power. Over build the car is the best thing to offer you for advice.:MECOOL:

genolan 11-22-2013 06:12 AM

I'm looking at 3 cars and all are backdrafts with 17 inch wheels .

1) 427 Rousch engine TKO600 trans $40-42k (2010 build) 2k miles
2) Ford racing 302 T5 trans $38K (2013 build) 1k miles
3) Ford racing 408 (dart block) TKO500 trans $35K (2007 build) 6k miles

Cashburn 11-22-2013 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by genolan (Post 1273016)
I'm looking at 3 cars and all are backdrafts with 17 inch wheels .

1) 427 Rousch engine TKO600 trans $40-42k (2010 build) 2k miles
2) Ford racing 302 T5 trans $38K (2013 build) 1k miles
3) Ford racing 408 (dart block) TKO500 trans $35K (2007 build) 6k miles

1) The seller is listing a car with a price range?
3) Ford Racing has never sold a 408 nor have they ever used Dart blocks, so that's a "deal".

genolan 11-22-2013 07:00 AM

Correction to 408

351Windsor/408 stroker—new Dart 'Sportsman' block hand built and installed by Speed Fanatix

genolan 11-22-2013 07:03 AM

more details on the 408 engine

•351Windsor/408 stroker—new Dart 'Sportsman' block hand built and installed by Speed Fanatix
•10:1 compression ratio; outputs 530 reliable, dependable horsepower
•Edelbrock Victor Jr. heads
•Scorpion 1.6 roller rockers
•Victor Jr. intake manifold
•FMS valve covers
•March aluminum pulleys and alternator bracket
•MSD ignition
•MSD coil
•MSD billet distributor
•Carter fuel pump
•Holley Street Avenger 770 carburetor
•Carter fuel pump
•Canton Road Race oil pan
•CSI accelerator linkage
•braided fuel and accelerator cable
•Mocal 16-row oil cooler with braided lines and fitted steel hose ends

Cashburn 11-22-2013 08:28 AM

Make sure that engine was not build by "Wheeler" for Speed Fanatix. That's all I will offer on that.

genolan 11-22-2013 08:32 AM

The info say's built by D & D. I'm not familiar with them

jhv48 11-22-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by genolan (Post 1273035)
The info say's built by D & D. I'm not familiar with them

Dumb and Dumber?

madmaxx 11-22-2013 09:08 AM

Choose number 1. For resale value. Say what u will about roush and no I am not a fan of them but they sell cobras with their engine.


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