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Pmccooey 08-01-2023 02:46 PM
Help with my CCX
 
Okay I am getting ready to renew my NYS safety inspection and noticed my horn wasn’t working. I went looking for it and can’t find it. I checked the manual and they said to install it on the foward passenger frame but I don’t see it. Taking a survey of where people have their horns mounted.

Also I was trying to see if I had high beams and warning flashers. The turn signal has a button on the dash side but it doesn’t do anything. Were these cars built with high beams and/or warning flashers? If so how do you operate them?

Thanks for the help!!

Alfa02 08-01-2023 03:59 PM
Jeff (1985CCX) will be right with you, He knows all ;) Cheers .

CCXCanuck 08-01-2023 04:03 PM
Yes, you are correct about the location of the horn. Right side mounted slightly ahead of the tire. The wire should be coming out of the main harness just ahead of that. If you need a pic of mine, let me know.

No warning flashers on mine, but the headlight high beam is a button close to the driver door. As for a turn signal, I've got a lever off the steering column, so I cannot help you there.

patrickt 08-01-2023 04:05 PM
I like any thread that uses the words "latching relay.":cool:

Pmccooey 08-01-2023 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CCXCanuck (Post 1518992)
Yes, you are correct about the location of the horn. Right side mounted slightly ahead of the tire. The wire should be coming out of the main harness just ahead of that. If you need a pic of mine, let me know.

No warning flashers on mine, but the headlight high beam is a button close to the driver door. As for a turn signal, I've got a lever off the steering column, so I cannot help you there.


I have the turn signal on my steering column also (right side) and just noticed it has some type of lever/button on the back of it. Need to figure out how they built this car still

patrickt 08-01-2023 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Pmccooey (Post 1518995)
I have the turn signal on my steering column also (right side) and just noticed it has some type of lever/button on the back of it. Need to figure out how they built this car still
I have never looked at a CCX wiring diagram. That said, the steering stalk is likely a variation of the VW bug stalk. The little button on the back of the stalk when pushed provides a ground signal to a latching relay fastened somewhere near the steering column. The latching relay has 12v+ coming in from the headlight switch, which has a feed that is hot all the time, and the latching relay sends 12v+ to either the high or low beam wires, through intermediate fuses probably at the fuse box, and that's how it works to light and switch your high and low beam. Some latching relays have a wiring option that allows FTP (flash to pass). I have a thread on that over in the ERA forum. Mucho coolo. Now remember I've never actually looked at a CCX.:cool:


EDIT -- Here's the flash to pass thread:http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/era-...utes-less.html

1985 CCX 08-01-2023 05:00 PM
Well I try hard
Know everything nah

Is this the Blue, light gray int, no roll car car. with 16” wheels ?
I may know this car.

johno42 08-01-2023 05:46 PM
Do you realize how funny you are? :LOL:

John O


Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1518993)
I like any thread that uses the words "latching relay.":cool:

mrmustang 08-01-2023 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pmccooey (Post 1518995)
I have the turn signal on my steering column also (right side) and just noticed it has some type of lever/button on the back of it. Need to figure out how they built this car still
The button in question is for the the switching between high and low beams on your headlights. Horn button should be on the dash. Horn mounting, could have been as stated above, could also be on the side of the radiator, one of mine had them mounted similar to ERA, center front cross member.

Take a picture of your dash and post it here.


Bill S.

Pmccooey 08-01-2023 05:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1985 CCX (Post 1518997)
Well I try hard
Know everything nah

Is this the Blue, no roll car car. with 16” wheels ?
I may know this car.
No that’s not mine

Pmccooey 08-01-2023 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang (Post 1519000)
The button in question is for the the switching between high and low beams on your headlights. Horn button should be on the dash. Horn mounting, could have been as stated above, could also be on the side of the radiator, one of mine had them mounted similar to ERA, center front cross member.

Take a picture of your dash and post it here.


Bill S.

I have the horn button (which was working last year) but nothing happens now. Checked fuse box but trying to locate the horn to test it.

Also trying to figure out how to turn on high beams and hazards.

Pmccooey 08-01-2023 05:53 PM
I don’t think I can post pictures?

767Jockey 08-01-2023 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Pmccooey (Post 1519003)
I have the horn button (which was working last year) but nothing happens now. Checked fuse box but trying to locate the horn to test it.

Also trying to figure out how to turn on high beams and hazards.
The horn button is Lucas - nothing from Lucas is reliable. Did you check the button?

mrmustang 08-02-2023 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Pmccooey (Post 1519003)
I have the horn button (which was working last year) but nothing happens now. Checked fuse box but trying to locate the horn to test it.

Also trying to figure out how to turn on high beams and hazards.
Might not have hazards, high beams should turn on when motor is running, and headlights are on, click switch in turn signal stalk and high beams will come on if they are still good (they do burn out, most people ignore them, so never realize this has occurred). The stalk is a VW item and still available from dozens of suppliers (CLICK HERE). Headlight and horn relay (CLICK HERE) also Volkswagen, and available over the counter at your local auto parts store.

Horn, yes, check under the dash to see if the wire has pulled from the back of the button itself. Otherwise, time to start looking at the front end of the car for where the horns are mounted, if not factory built, they could be anywhere ahead of the firewall.


Bill S.

Pmccooey 08-02-2023 08:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang (Post 1519013)
Might not have hazards, high beams should turn on when motor is running, and headlights are on, click switch in turn signal stalk and high beams will come on if they are still good (they do burn out, most people ignore them, so never realize this has occurred). The stalk is a VW item and still available from dozens of suppliers (CLICK HERE). Headlight and horn relay (CLICK HERE) also Volkswagen, and available over the counter at your local auto parts store.

Horn, yes, check under the dash to see if the wire has pulled from the back of the button itself. Otherwise, time to start looking at the front end of the car for where the horns are mounted, if not factory built, they could be anywhere ahead of the firewall.


Bill S.

Thanks!! I was testing the high beam switch with the car off, that’s probably why it wasn’t working.

For the horn button I checked the two green wires first to make sure they were still attached. I’ll crawl under there today and jump them to rule out the button.

I appreciate everyone’s help!

Pmccooey 08-03-2023 01:27 PM
I want to thank everyone for the help. I located my horn. It was in the passenger side fender well, up too towards the front. After taking it out and bench testing it, it was good. Just bad ground. Put it back and it works fine.

Now the high beams. Still not working i]even with the car running. If I play with the switch a bunch I can sometimes get the headlights to flicker but that’s it. I’ll be researching a good replacement and changing it out. Anyone ever do this before? Is it simply pulling the steering wheel and sliding it up and out?

mrmustang 08-03-2023 02:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pmccooey (Post 1519065)
I want to thank everyone for the help. I located my horn. It was in the passenger side fender well, up too towards the front. After taking it out and bench testing it, it was good. Just bad ground. Put it back and it works fine.

Now the high beams. Still not working i]even with the car running. If I play with the switch a bunch I can sometimes get the headlights to flicker but that’s it. I’ll be researching a good replacement and changing it out. Anyone ever do this before? Is it simply pulling the steering wheel and sliding it up and out?
Simple and easy to accomplish with hand tools.


Bill S.


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