Sticky tires and a racing suspension are NECESARRY for me to autocross.

My "sticky tires" were Yokohama Paradas, not racing slicks (Paradas are not "racing" tires at all). I will emphasise that I was NOT driving dangerously. I knew my limits, and did not push them, or my luck.

You will see in the video that I was not driving fast or taking risks at all. You will see, however, a Cobra Fishtailing and driving into my lane.

As for the video, as JPorter900 explained, there was a tremendous show of people, i wanted to record that for memories sake.

MK

Where can one see the video?

OK That's It
 

No more Cobra, Convertable, Viper, or Subaru insurance. Keep it up yawl, and we'll add Ford F-350 Power Stokes, Dodge Rams, Focus, Vanagon, PT Criuser (turbo too!), Explorers, LS430's, and anything else someone gets caught driving STUPID. (The aformentioned list was from my drive to work this morning.. its a Seattle thing).


Zderf :mad:

It is currently in 8mm tape form, I will have it digitized and posted for all when it is ready.

MK

The above was a JOKE posted in reference to the previous year's event. It should be obvious to you... a Check Shorts light? Give me a break! The person who posted that is a drill sergeant with the Army, stationed in Fayetteville NC.



THIS EVENT WAS NOT ABOUT DRIVING IRRESPONSIBLY. I have gone to incredible lengths to ensure that our attendees represented themselves well on the road and caused no danger to other motorists. Driving "briskly" does NOT include exceeding the speed limit, especially around other motorists. Incidentally, the speed limit on the road in question is 55mph. If you exceed 55mph on the Dragon you are INSANE.

I came on this forum to find out the identity of the Cobra owner who forced Mk750 from the road and then left the scene of the accident. I have achieved that. Thank you for your concern and your kind words.

It's amazing to me that a forum based around a car that is by it's very nature a custom beast would fundamentally question the motive of another vehicle owner who has modified his vehicle for performance.

There were no "street racer" kids in our group, nor would their ilk ever be welcome with us. Please do not lump us with the image of the California street racer fools simply because we drive import performance automobiles. And yes, I consider an AWD turbocharged vehicle with close to (or exceeding) 300hp and weighing less than 3000 pounds to be a performance vehicle. The WRX does 0-60 in 5.4 stock, 4.8 with $1000 worth of bolt-ons.


I question the motive of those who have chosen to attack me in response to my post... simply trying to protect one of "your own"? Isn't that a bit immature?

BTW, I'd love to bring a group to VIR to race on a weekend that you guys are there... if you'd have us! It'd be an interesting comparison... Power vs. Traction.

Well his joke came on at 75mph as he wrote.

Drill sgt or not we are all responsible for our actions.

When you post a header "two factory five cobras cause accident at the Dragon" please don't lump all of us "go cart" drivers into that mess.
as you wrote"Please do not lump us with the image of the California street racer fools simply because we drive import performance automobiles" Well I would expect the same from you. I don't believe that is immature. You have 100% agreement that all driving above the limits of the driver and the posted limits of the road is unsafe.

Now help me off my soapbox again.

you guys all need to calm down. i bet the cobra driver had a pants-full after the near miss, just like the subaru guy did. geez, no one was hurt, it was a mistake, evidently the perpetrator made amends. All you guys have gone over the speed limit, done burnouts, taken a corner a little too fast. even you, the subaru guy. be glad that you had the reactions to aviod a wreck...I bet everyone involved drives a little more responsibly.

my$.02

Jason, you're in good company. The American racing legend who created the original cars we all love around here gets the same dose of motives and maturity.:rolleyes:

Rich

hey, Jporter900 is right to be ticked...as we would be if we had been forced off the road by a Subaru. these cars and many others are lethal weapons when being driven irresponsibly. so are some of those pocket rocket subarus. doesn't matter what the two bozo's were driving, they were wrong..pure and simple. be safe out there, the life you save may be your own. bill.

I'm a veteran "crotch rocket" motorcyclist as well as a Cobra and Porsche owner. I guess I'm a bit more tolerant because I have been forced into the emergency lane/off the road by numerous automobiles, all while enjoying the winding roads of the Texas Hill Country. It happens. I have horror stories about the automobile/motorcycle relationship. No one is questioning the right/wrong aspect of the incident. clearly, forcing someone off the road is wrong. Vilifying the perpetrator serves no purpose either. Drive Sane. Take a deep breath and be careful out there.

Having read all of the posted comments (and taking some of them with a grain of salt, considering tempers were probably flared), I find the following facts:

1. The Cobra owners on this forum and the DSCC as a whole do not condone actions like those described by Jason.

2. The Cobra owner in question has contacted the necessary individuals to resolve the situation.

3. Nobody was injured (thank God).

I appreciate that members from this forum were quick to speak up and reinforce what I told Jason: that the DSCC simply doesn't tolerate such behavior. I regret that the incident happened at all and I hope that everyone (not just the driver involved) has learned something valuable from this entire incident.

I also appreciate Jason's comments regarding the Cobra being a highly-modified, peformance-minded machine. Let's face it guys, he's right. If we are honest with ourselves, we can't really jump on the Subaru owner for driving the Dragon with performance-enhancing modifications in place. Hell, we drive everywhere with performance-enhancing modifications in place, don't we? Seriously, how many of us have engines with less than 400 HP? Very few, I'm sure. Mine will have over 500 when it's finished.

Overall, we're all sorry that the incident took place and I personally feel that a Cobra vs. Subaru rally at VIR would be a wonderful way for the members of both groups to get to know each other under much better circumstances.

Keith :)

Yea, a Suburu boo boo was avoided, so maybe a Cobrarohuhu challenge is in order at he next track event, which is ???
I think the subu's have the advantage as horsepower is worthless if she don't handle, and the Subu is better suited to the novice driver than the cobra, which must be steered with the loud pedal as mush as the steering wheel.

i guess i feel the need to address a couple things said.


a couple people have talked about "more than meets the eye" in reference to the suby guy making a "hot lap". now, none of us were there AT THE INSTANT, so we can all speculate. the bottom line is, hot lap or not, running video or not, CS light or not, subaru CHALLANGE the dragon or not, yokohama parada and 2k gab suspension or not, hes not the one that was in THE OTHER lane, and hes NOT the one that took off leaving the scene of an accident which he caused. ill be the first to admit that i abhor recless driving on public roads. ive seen some friends go out and be taken out because of it. but you can have a "spirited" run, or even "challange" the dragon without be out of controll or recless. to all these people talking about reclessness, do you ever speed?

i think the big thing that he/we are upset about isnt so much that he got run off, but that the guy left him unkownst to the condition of either him or his car. i get the strong impression that had the guy stopped, accepted his blame and made arrangements for fair restitution we wouldnt be were we are now.

at any rate, i also feel its important to remember this is NOT a suby vs cobra episode or anything of the sort. its simply a victim against a felon, the latter of whom happened to be driving a cobra.

i would like to further extend my thanks to all those that have been helpful and supportive in this matter in getting it resolved quickly.

keep motoring, safely.

-KP

ps-nice board/cars!

track day at vir? :devil: i know some sticky tire MR2's that might wanna come crash that party **)

Well said kurt, nobody can disagree with that. i just wish more folks would participate in the track events like the VIR deal, The Willis 100, or the Gainsville thing, and learn to drive, instead of endangering the public and giving all of us a bad name and higher insurance rates. There are openings at the above events that wil go un-filled, and at the same time, there are yahoos trying to learn to drive on roads shared by mini-vans full of kids. Dragon Shmagon, lets all go to a track and have safe fun. All the Subu guys would be welcome and would be competitive to boot, and we could use the participation I'm sure. Please join me out loud as I say " shame on the scoundrels" and lets all meet at a track as the car nuts that we are.

A Subaru Rally?
ReallY?

What is next? Kia Grand Prix?

TURK

LOL, Turk.

You Subaru guys realize that you ain't gotta chance in the straightaways, right? :D I can see how the corners could be a concern, especially for a novice Cobra driver. %/ Should be fun, nonetheless. Does VIR have some good straights? Never been there, myself.

Turk - So if my 427 happens to be a 462 stroker, is like that having... uh... 56 in Blackjack?

Keith :)

Re recless driving
 

Thundrhill race track in Northern Calif. is about an hours drive from my house and they have scheduled driving schools several days a year. This is for any driver and any car. The only real requirement is that the car be safe and they will inspect it. You can take a full blown race car or your pickup that you haul junk in to the school and if it is safe they will let you in the schools. The classes are just one day and I think well worth it for anyone wanting to learn a few things about their cars and how to controll skids & etc. I have seen youn girls from as far away as Los Angles there with their Hondas attending the school and they all really thought it was great. So there reall is no reason for any person to have to use the public roads to learn to drive like Dale Earnheart.

Ron61

not trying to stir the pot....but 99% of folks that run the gap are doing something illegal...the worst part of this deal is that they left the scene IMHO....if you run the gap long enough you are gonna bust your ass....

Not trying to stir the pot either but, in the most basic circumstances the fact is, whether or not all participants on the road were involved in "horse play" is not the main concern. The issue is, someone got sideways and caused a near miss then left the scene of an accident. I believe that is a crime in any state? Not that I am condoning charges be brought up. I loved the law in Germany where I lived. "If there is an accident ALL vehicles must stop to render assistance until emergency vehicles arrive." People will pull off to help whether they witnessed an accident or not. Too many times everyone thinks the next guy will stop.
Lets keep racing on the track where it belongs.