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Trevor Legate 03-21-2022 09:59 AM

Dear Psycopath

For the record, Superformance have been importing 289/427, Daytona and GT40 into the UK for many years! Hardly 'just starting'....

Contact the official UK importer: www.lemanscoupes.com and ask for Ollie.

(No affiliation with LM Coupes apart from photographing their cars, kicking the tyres and drinking their tea)

Trevor Legate 03-21-2022 10:05 AM

Dear Psycopath

For the record, Superformance have been importing 289/427, Daytona and GT40 into the UK for many years! Hardly 'just starting'....

Contact the official UK importer: www.lemanscoupes.com and ask for Ollie.

(No affiliation with LM Coupes apart from photographing their cars, kicking the tyres and drinking their tea)

DanEC 03-21-2022 11:53 AM

OK, thanks Bob. I figured with the short drive shaft, that much lateral movement would be an issue.

crendonman427sc 03-22-2022 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psychopath (Post 1504447)
Apologies to the Cobra community as this is my first post...............Is there any way to get in contact with ERA to talk and put a deposit down for a right hand drive (if it is a possibility) ERA 427 from ERA Replicas. I live in the Uk hence why I would like to get built and purchase a RHD version. I understand Superformance have just started to provide a service for purchasing in the UK but I have tried emailing ERA using the email address from their website but have not received any replies so far.

Thank you in advance for any replies. I love this site.

Patrick,

Importing a RHD ERA into the UK (I assume) would be fraught with major issues all of which would relate to SVA Regs.

Its tough enough for the UK Manufacturers to keep a handle on the Technical requirements of SVA so you would have to identify the issues in advance and purchase a car minus all the bits that would fail the SVA Test (which would be many).

Its not impossible but would be very time consuming in my view.

Regards

patrickt 03-22-2022 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crendonman427sc (Post 1504570)
Patrick,

Importing a RHD ERA into the UK (I assume) would be fraught with major issues...

Alright, I won't do it then... not that I was ever planning to.:rolleyes:

xb-60 03-22-2022 05:51 PM

The penny's dropped ....Patrick, your alter ego is Psychpath; am I right?

patrickt 03-22-2022 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xb-60 (Post 1504578)
The penny's dropped ....Patrick, your alter ego is Psychpath; am I right?

Correct. He's my evil twin, Psychopat.:cool:

Psychopath 03-28-2022 08:16 AM

Thank you everybody for you kind answers to my question. It is very much appreciated. I am still very keen to purchase and get built a RHD ERA but am a little concerned about the SVA regulations as was brought up by crendonman427sc for new imported cars into the UK. It must be possible as Superformance do it.

Trevor Legate 03-28-2022 10:07 AM

Importing an ERA into the UK would require going through IVA. Not impossible but there are numerous 'issues' to address. It takes time, money, patience, more money and the hide of a rhino.

FYI: Superformance do not import cars into the UK from the USA.

patrickt 03-28-2022 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevor Legate (Post 1504792)
Importing an ERA into the UK would require going through IVA. Not impossible but there are numerous 'issues' to address. It takes time, money, patience, more money and the hide of a rhino.

FYI: Superformance do not import cars into the UK from the USA.

Or convince Mr. M. to launder it through Spain....;)

mrmustang 03-28-2022 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1504793)
Or convince Mr. M. to launder it through Spain....;)

I know of a nice 1980 Ford Fiesta for sale in Madrid, white, black interior, less than 110,000 kilometers on it if you are truly interested. Interior sun worn, exterior, not pretty having been parked on the street since new.


Bill S.

PS: That is about as close as I get to doing any business in Spain, although I have been chasing an exported 66 GT350 Shelby fastback there for almost 30 years :p

1ntCobra 03-28-2022 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psychopath (Post 1504787)
Thank you everybody for you kind answers to my question. It is very much appreciated. I am still very keen to purchase and get built a RHD ERA but am a little concerned about the SVA regulations as was brought up by crendonman427sc for new imported cars into the UK. It must be possible as Superformance do it.

Doesn’t Hawk over on your side of the pond bring in Kirkhams to sell over there? Perhaps they could help you get an ERA in too?

Buzz 03-29-2022 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psychopath (Post 1504787)
Thank you everybody for you kind answers to my question. It is very much appreciated. I am still very keen to purchase and get built a RHD ERA but am a little concerned about the SVA regulations as was brought up by crendonman427sc for new imported cars into the UK. It must be possible as Superformance do it.

It's completely understandable that someone looking for a high end 289FIA replica would choose ERA, but without igniting a brand war - why not consider the Superformance option? They're already selling RHD FIA's there and they are comparable to the ERA offering; even arguably more accurate and true to the original. If availability issues were equal one could go either way, but in your situation, It's curious that you seem dead set on the ERA over the SPF.

Psychopath 03-29-2022 01:28 PM

Thank you for all the comments everybody. 1ntCobra, that is something that could be looked into. Appreciated.

Buzz, I always thought the ERA replica was a more preferred shape for me as the Superformance replica is slightly different. Am I correct in thinking this????

mrmustang 03-29-2022 02:22 PM

I've been told the Fiesta has been sold :D

Buzz 03-29-2022 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psychopath (Post 1504840)
Thank you for all the comments everybody. 1ntCobra, that is something that could be looked into. Appreciated.

Buzz, I always thought the ERA replica was a more preferred shape for me as the Superformance replica is slightly different. Am I correct in thinking this????

When it comes to the 427 cars - yes, absolutely. ERA did a fantastic job of refining the shape of their body, correcting the the asymmetry and inconsistencies inherent to the original handmade bodies while still keeping the the beautiful original lines, shape and just as importantly - the low, sleek stance.
Superformance on the other hand, originally based their 427 shape on the Contemporary Cobra replica body, which - like ERA - was also splashed directly from an original Cobra and widely touted (even today) as "the most accurate Cobra replica". They were indeed fine replicas, but during the production cycle, Contemporary decided to correct the side to side asymmetry by raising the rear fender on one side to match the other. They then had to lower the rocker area below the doors and adjust the wheel openings as the new shape looked awkward with lower profile rear tires. As a result, Superformance (and quite a few other brands who copied Contemporary) inherited a different looking body with a higher, chunkier profile and stance.
They recognised their mistake and did it differently with their 289 replicas. They really are beautifully done and there are others here who can speak with authority on the quality and accuracy of SPF's MKll cars.

Buzz 03-29-2022 04:40 PM

One other point about accuracy to the originals is in the chassis details. ERA builds both (big and small block) models on a rectangular tube chassis with a coilover suspension. For their MK ll, SPF uses an authentic round tube chassis with the correct transverse leaf suspension. The body shape is beautifully executed and if superficial appearance is a primary driving factor, it certainly holds its own against the ERA. I suppose it would boil down to whether folks feel the authenticity factor is worth the relatively reasonable bump in the sticker price for the SPF.
In your particular circumstance, I would imagine that after getting an ERA through all of the regulatory hoops with the additional expense of a right hand drive conversion on top of that; you'd come out way ahead going with the already available Superformance offering.

twobjshelbys 03-29-2022 04:50 PM

Perhaps SPF will be quicker to turn around the delivery as well since they've done them before.

DanEC 03-31-2022 05:36 AM

SPF small block cars do seem exceptionally nice and accurate.

Trevor Legate 03-31-2022 07:50 AM

Psycho - for the record Hawk are no longer associated with Kirkham (or ERA etc etc) so would strongly advise against contacting them on that subject.

However, do ask whether they can supply an ali-body/chassis for a 289 or FIA. And should you have ever, like me, coveted a Lancia Stratos..... :)


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