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nbfalj 12-13-2009 06:56 AM

Factory 427 cobra intake and carbs???
 
I recently aquired a factory dual 4 setup that I was told could be off an early cobra so I thought I might ask the people in the know. It is a factory ford alum intake with no casting numbers. It has the ford logo, firing order, and on back of intake under the breather (pcv) plate it has an S made of 5 straight lines, then 41L and 216258. The carbs are both Holley C2AE-9510-CB. List #2652. Both have chokes and Identical date codes 2A1. Any help in identifying this would be greatly appreciated.

*13* 12-13-2009 08:02 AM

C2 denotes 1962

Woodz428 12-13-2009 08:42 AM

Yeah, the carbs would have been earlier than the 2-4 which didn't come from Ford until '63. They were running trips until then. Not sure about the intake, but the carbs are probably off a single 4 intake. Some pics would help to identify. In the 289 cars, which would have been the engine in '62-63 , they used a 2-4 manifold that ran AFB's. I don't think many Cobras( of any engine size) came from the factory with 2-4s. Ford sold a lot of manifolds through the parts dept. and many were sold through other speed shops such as Honest Charley and Gratiot. I think the ones that Shelby sold had either Cobra or Shelby logos,but some may have been blank. So, I would doubt and it would be hard to determine, whether that was ever on a factory 427 Cobra.
I have seen a large S on 390GT cast iron 4v intakes and S is the Ford code for T-birds too. I doubt that Shelby would have "hidden" his logo under anything.
They do make nice bling though :)

Dwight 12-13-2009 09:22 AM

question for WDZ
 
WDZ,
I bought '68 station wagon with a Q code in vin number which is a 428. I guess the guy ordered it with a 428 to pull his boat. Who knows?
Anyway, I pulled the motor and put it in the storage room for a future project. Later I was looking at pictures of the motor and noticed a reverse S on the back of the block. The intake has a large S on it. I found out what the S on the block was but I have not found anyone who could tell me anything about the intake. I'm not going to use it but someone out there in the FE Ford world may be able to use it on their car.
Can you tell me anything about the intake?

Thanks Dwight

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Excaliber 12-13-2009 10:24 AM

It seems illogical that Shelby would have used a 1962 2X4 intake on a 1965 427 Cobra. 2X4's were more common on the LATER street model cars with a 428.

Bernica 12-13-2009 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight (Post 1009454)
WDZ,
I bought '68 station wagon with a Q code in vin number which is a 428. I guess the guy ordered it with a 428 to pull his boat. Who knows?
Anyway, I pulled the motor and put it in the storage room for a future project. Later I was looking at pictures of the motor and noticed a reverse S on the back of the block. The intake has a large S on it. I found out what the S on the block was but I have not found anyone who could tell me anything about the intake. I'm not going to use it but someone out there in the FE Ford world may be able to use it on their car.
Can you tell me anything about the intake?

Thanks Dwight

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...m/DSCN3135.JPG

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...nwagon_15_.JPG

According to my books, C7AE-E was a cast iron dual plane intake used in the '66-'67 390GT and 428 4v from 11-1-66 to 9-11-67. The large "S" was cast on all '66-68 GT 390's. No "S" on the '69 GT390. That's all Ive got.

Anthony 12-13-2009 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excaliber (Post 1009471)
It seems illogical that Shelby would have used a 1962 2X4 intake on a 1965 427 Cobra. 2X4's were more common on the LATER street model cars with a 428.

I believe the C2 meant 1962 design. You would need to look at the date code of manufacture to determine when it was casted.

I believe shelby used Ford "factory crate" engines offered at the time of construction. The early 427 street cars came with 427 center oilers with 2X4 inakes, I believe low risers but that may not be true. I believe all comp and S/C cobras came with side oilers. A few of the 427 cars came with hi-Riser heads. Some of the 428 cars came with a single four.

dcdoug 12-13-2009 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernica (Post 1009478)
According to my books, C7AE-E was a cast iron dual plane intake used in the '66-'67 390GT and 428 4v from 11-1-66 to 9-11-67. The large "S" was cast on all '66-68 GT 390's. No "S" on the '69 GT390. That's all Ive got.

Here's what I found: "C7AE-9425-E Cast iron intake manifold used on 1967 S code 390-4V engines in a Mercury Cougar or Ford Mustang. Stock 4 barrel intake manifold, used before 9-11-1967."


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