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RodKnock 03-29-2010 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by silverline (Post 1039715)
As with alcohol. ;)

Driving a cobra with excessive HP / low-end TQ isn´t funny. If you´re realistic, a well made 468 cubic-incher is enough for a light car. Why go the 482 route than (or even more) and not take the shorter stroke advantages? There´s nothing wrong with 482 in a cuiser, but no chance in my cobra!
That's your opinion and your welcome to have it. If you believe in the short stroke philosophy, then why not de-stroke it? Chocolate, vanilla and strawberry. They make lots of flavors. A 482 is cruiser? Puh-leeeze. Like anyone could tell the difference between a 4.125 and a 4.25 stroke except for maybe Jack Roush himself. :LOL:

silverline 03-29-2010 09:28 AM
De-stroking? If you want BBC rod journals and no custom made (expensive) crankshaft, 4.125 is the shortest available FE-crank.

482 is cruiser? Of course not, please understand me right. There is a driveability limit in a cobra and - I think - no technical need for 482 CUI.

You like the 4.250 stroke, OK accepted!

RodKnock 03-29-2010 10:15 AM
Here's my point.

I'm not saying a 482 is better or worse than a 468, not to mention other "popular" FE builds such as a 496, 511 or a 527. What I am trying to say is that the difference is "rev-ability" is probably so small that a normal person (and for the purposes of this discussion let's say I'm normal, a stretch, I know), couldn't detect the difference.

I will also say that if you search on the FE Forum, more often than not, using an aftermarket block, the FE "gurus" go bigger, not smaller.

patrickt 03-29-2010 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1039821)
I will also say that if you search on the FE Forum, more often than not, using an aftermarket block, the FE "gurus" go bigger, not smaller.
That seems to be true. Silverline's build is very similar to mine. He didn't mention whether he was going to put an aluminum flywheel or not. It's just one school of thinking on what to put in these cars. Bigger is not always better, more is not always preferable. Rod's car is probably 10% lighter than mine and he has >10% more power than I have (and hydro v. solid, too) and I think we both run Yokos. I'd have to drive it to see what the real difference was in the ramp rate, etc. Who knows, these Yokos only hold so much anyway.

ERA Chas 03-29-2010 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1039826)
... he has >10% more power than I have ...
..try 24% more...

patrickt 03-29-2010 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ERA Chas (Post 1039834)
..try 24% more...
Uhh, Chas the sideways "v" means "greater than.":p

ERA Chas 03-29-2010 11:32 AM
I KNOW what it means but you should have used >20-or- >>10. :LOL:

Nice BS try again..:cool:

xlr8or 03-29-2010 11:45 AM
As Rodknock noted I had the Genesis iron block in my Kirkham. The only problem I had with it was the screw in freeze plugs didn't seal up the first time and dribbled a little. Mine was a 468 because I got it as a package deal with the block and it ran great. No complaints at all.

RodKnock 03-29-2010 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1039826)
Rod's car is probably 10% lighter than mine and he has >10% more power than I have (and hydro v. solid, too) and I think we both run Yokos.
Chas, I was going to ignore it, but since you brought it up....

My car weighs 2,128 lbs. I'm willing to bet that Patrick's car is more than > 10% heavier than mine.

Patrick was right when he said that I run Yokos though.

ERA Chas 03-29-2010 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1039865)
Chas, I was going to ignore it, but since you brought it up....
My car weighs 2,128 lbs. I'm willing to bet that Patrick's car is more than > 10% heavier than mine.
Rod,
NEVER ignore a BS attempt when you see one...;)

My car is 2650 wet-his is at least that (I'm being charitable) with an extra bar, heavier wheels and tires and "tons of aluminum" as he blathers (missing the oxymoron).

At your weight your p/w ratio is 3.5-mine is 4.8. At 500 pounds less, that's like adding 100+ HP. With Nittos or M/T's you can easily run 10.3's all day.

You should do that Dude...:MECOOL:

RodKnock 03-29-2010 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ERA Chas (Post 1039875)
Rod,
NEVER ignore a BS attempt when you see one...;)

My car is 2650 wet-his is at least that (I'm being charitable) with an extra bar, heavier wheels and tires and "tons of aluminum" as he blathers (missing the oxymoron).

At your weight your p/w ratio is 3.5-mine is 4.8. At 500 pounds less, that's like adding 100+ HP. With Nittos or M/T's you can easily run 10.3's all day.

You should do that Dude...:MECOOL:
Only pointing out the weight discrepancy, due to Patrick's inadequate estimates, because I kinda like picking on Patrick. That's all. :)

patrickt 03-29-2010 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ERA Chas (Post 1039875)
My car is 2650 wet-his is at least that (I'm being charitable) with an extra bar, heavier wheels and tires and "tons of aluminum" as he blathers (missing the oxymoron).
I just pulled the results of the "weigh day" we had three years ago. With me not in the car, the weight was 2651 with a half tank of gas and the top and a small satchel of tools in the trunk. Had I known yours would tun out to be a pound lighter I would have drained my tank that morning.:cool:

EDIT -- The official chart says I was 2653. I could have still beat you had I just had one less gallon of gas in the car.

patrickt 03-29-2010 02:15 PM
Wait a minute...
 
RodKnock's car weighs 500 lbs. less than mine?!? Damn...

RodKnock 03-29-2010 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1039902)
RodKnock's car weighs 500 lbs. less than mine?!? Damn...
Well, if I had one of those plastic distributor gears instead of bronze, then I might have been able shave off another oz. too. Darn it.

patrickt 03-29-2010 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1039906)
Well, if I had one of those plastic distributor gears instead of bronze, then I might have been able shave off another oz. too. Darn it.
Well, you've got 500 lbs and maybe 100 horses on me. You'd have to strip that distributor gear for me to catch you....:CRY:

ERA Chas 03-29-2010 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1039906)
Well, if I had one of those plastic distributor gears instead of bronze, then I might have been able shave off another oz. too. Darn it.
:LOL::LOL::LOL:Dude, you rock-:LOL:

silverline 03-29-2010 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Silverline's build is very similar to mine. He didn't mention whether he was going to put an aluminum flywheel or not. It's just one school of thinking on what to put in these cars. Bigger is not always better, more is not always preferable. Rod's car is probably 10% lighter than mine and he has >10% more power than I have (and hydro v. solid, too) and I think we both run Yokos.
Aluminum flywheel. ;)

With the heavier Pond block (had a 390 stroker in it before) my cobra weighs approx. 2.750 lbs. A Pond aluminum block would be very nice, but with historical registration here in germany not the way to go.

xlr8or 03-29-2010 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1039902)
RodKnock's car weighs 500 lbs. less than mine?!? Damn...
My Daytona Coupe weighs less than your car with me in it. Under 2400 without me. So there. ;)

of course it only has a little 347 in it. :o


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