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saltshaker 05-14-2010 04:48 PM
will water cool as well as antifreeze?
 
will antifreeze keep the motor as cool as antifreeze?
Jon

PatBuckley 05-14-2010 04:56 PM
Straight water will cool better than anti-freeze.

Bobcat 05-14-2010 04:59 PM
x2 on pure distilled water ... most racing organizations will not allow antifreeze . It makes things real exciting if you hit a patch of it on the track . Try running distilled water and water wetter with the water pump lube in it .
Makes it a lot easier to clean up if you have to change a hose of spring a leak .

CobraEd 05-14-2010 04:59 PM
Except it has no rust preventative and water pump lubricant additives as found in antifreeze.


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gsharapa 05-14-2010 05:13 PM
Actually a 50/50 mix of distrilled water and antifreeze with some water wetter will cool much better than straight water or distilled water...

CoupedUp 05-14-2010 05:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CobraEd (Post 1050901)
Except it has no rust preventative and water pump lubricant additives as found in antifreeze.


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That's what Water Wetter is for. I run distilled water with Water Wetter.
Doug

Jamo 05-14-2010 05:17 PM
Assolutely...H2O/WW

bobcowan 05-14-2010 06:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gsharapa (Post 1050907)
Actually a 50/50 mix of distrilled water and antifreeze with some water wetter will cool much better than straight water or distilled water...
Not exactly true. Pure water carries and transfers heat energy better than a 50/50 mix. But the mix has a higher boiling point under pressure, and a lower freezing point.

http://www.redlineoil.com/content/fi...ech%20Info.pdf

undy 05-14-2010 06:25 PM
The heat rejection factor of water being 1.0 pure antifreeze has a .8 heat rejection factor . Any addition of antifreeze to water porportionately reduces the mix's heat rejection capabilities. Pump lubrication, rust inhibitors, elevated boiling points and lowered freezing points are the only advantages of a glycol/water mix.

Excaliber 05-14-2010 08:40 PM
Well hopefully the freezing weather is over here in Oregon for the time being. It better be, I just dumped the antifreeze solution I've been running through the winter and changed out to water and wetter for the summer.

I can actually SEE the difference in temperatures running water vs antifreeze mix. Water alone is better.

Bob In Ct 05-14-2010 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by undy (Post 1050925)
The heat rejection factor of water being 1.0 pure antifreeze has a .8 heat rejection factor . Any addition of antifreeze to water porportionately reduces the mix's heat rejection capabilities. Pump lubrication, rust inhibitors, elevated boiling points and lowered freezing points are the only advantages of a glycol/water mix.
The only advantages? If you can you should run 50/50 all year long.

Bob

bobcowan 05-14-2010 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob In Ct (Post 1050963)
The only advantages? If you can you should run 50/50 all year long.

Bob
Why?

I run about a 25% AF + a surfactent year round. Seems to do OK. In cooler temps I have to put duct tape on the radiater to get the temps up to 180*.

scottj 05-15-2010 06:09 AM
The only time I use anti-freeze is if the car will be exposed to freezing temps. Since my car is never exposed to freezing temps; maximum cooling, pump lube, and corrosion protection are achieved with water and Prestone Super Anti-Rust. There are other corrosion inhibitors that will do the same thing as Prestone. I won't comment on WW and other surfactants except to say that if it makes you feel good knowing it's in there, then pour a bottle in... the odds are that your water pump seal will be just fine...

Scott

Ron61 05-15-2010 06:25 AM
Same here. Never put any anti freeze in. Just distilled water and a bottle of water wetter. And it gets near the Arizona temperatures around here in the summer. Like 118° with a heat factor of 124/128.

Ron :)

Dwight 05-15-2010 06:42 AM
I live in North Alabama. Our weather ranges from mid 20's to 100 degrees. I drive year round with 25% AF and 75% distilled water. I don't when it gets below 45.

I have my fan set to come on at 205 degrees. I run fuel injected so my operating temp is 195.

over 27,000 miles

my big block buddies run 25/75 and water wetter.

Dwight

PANAVIA 05-21-2010 01:58 AM
Agreed , distilled or highly filtered water with some AF and WW.
75% water,22% AF, 3% ww.

Feel blessed in oregon for the good water, Tap water in California --isn't .

Plus modern green antifreeze is scary ! It just doesn't taste the same as in the 1980's.

Steve

Bxx1 05-22-2010 11:10 PM
My car runs much cooler with less than without AF. I had to dump my AF for track day and since that time the Cobra has never come close to over heating. My only concern is engine block corrosion etc. I use WW and am investigating quality anti-corrosion additives. Any feedback on quallity corrosion inhibiters is appreciated.

rustyBob 05-23-2010 02:10 PM
if your car is exposed to freezing temps. and you dont want to drain your rad. every year then run a mix that will keep your coolant from turning to ice.....and yes it will crack your block....if your not around freezing temps. then run distilled water and water wetter and a good corosion inhibitor like super anti-rust....
80% water 15% ww and 5% anti rust that should keep your cooling system operating at its best along with a coolant recovery tank.


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