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Beats me how anything he might have makes that SOHC some how less. Bad logic and reasoning. They think that putting others down makes them look superior but they look stupid to a person with a good head on their shoulders. |
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Here's my point, in case you missed it. Yes, we all know it's an expensive engine. So what? Barry built a beautiful expensive engine, and then you're saying it's expensive (duh), FE's can't handle and FE's can't get down a track fast enough as, maybe, your car? Really? Resorting to name calling? Really? BTW, trolling is trolling. You're trying to incite "the masses." Also, if you have a Kirkham, then you should change your info in the top right hand corner of your posts. It still states SPF. |
Very nice motor. If you look at advances in motor design and in particular FORD motors the S.O.H.C. has to be a mile.stone (a significant event in history ) for the time period. Cobra time period. The 1960s were exciting to me because of advances and hp wars by all manufacturer. ONE of the biggest mistakes I feel I've made was not buying a mustang for sale at local vintage car dealer. It was a 67 mustang , I think, with a S.O.H.C. with 2 4barrel carbs on it. It was priced in mid thirty's. I could have put a small block ford back in the car and sold it, kept the S.O.H.C. to drool on. I said I think the car was a 1967 because all I could see was the motor. Again VERY COOL MOTOR.
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Nice engine, it would look good with the valve covers chromed, and carbs polished.
BTW, there is nothing wrong with a SBF, the look CUTE under the hood of a 65 mustang. :p |
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To paraphrase Shakespeare, methinks thou doth protest too much. |
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BTW nice job Barry. ;) |
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I have respect from everyone and every engine builder, I have a kieth craft motor, and blykins hopefully soon will be building me another, my opinion for that motor for that money may be in the minority, cool motor for an engine competition, but not the best cobra race motor by far, but its my opinion and im not alone.
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FR65, quoting you....."I have respect from everyone"
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So, FE's: a) are more expensive to build than SBF's, b) are heavier than SBF's, and c) make less HP per $ than SBF's There's no new news there. It really boils down to M-O-N-E-Y. Money. Very few people are able to buy/build a SOHC engine, but I would dare say that 99% of the Cobra owners, if they had the discretionary funds to build and install Barry's or Keith Craft's SOHC, then we/they would. I know I would and may someday. |
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First off you do not have everyone's respect as you state above. geeesshh. I can assure you of that. Second, I have not seen any of your cars (the twin turbo FFR, the SPF, the Kirkham, the bentley, the lambo, the M1, the McLaren) at the drags or the road race courses here in Phoenix... I must have missed you when you went by soooo fast - hahaha. In spite of that, you sure talk a lot of smack. Kinda funny the amount of drivel you spew, given you dont seem to have any real racing experience in your cars. I will be happy to take you up on your race challenge, and I dont even have an 870 hp cammer! We'll do drags and road race (pick just one of your vastly superior and lower-cost, best value for the money, cars), lowest total time wins. I recommend Speedworld for drags and Inde (Wilcox) for road racing. I'll be there anyway, so why dont ya just come on by. You win, you continue to spew. I win, you put a cork in it. BTW, you seem to be all about value per measure of performance: Why overspend so much on the esoteric Kirkham, when the F5 can easily outperform it for much less money? I guess its the cool factor of the aluminum coachwork. Wait... cool factor... cool factor... Thats the argument for the cammer, huh? |
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By the way: Gorgeous SOHC and surly the envy of many "experts". :LOL: I would love to put that in a 63 1/2 Galaxie! |
OK. I think we all need to step back and get a little "daily affirmation." :LOL:
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WOW! Such vitreol from so many blue oval people! I reiterate, beautiful engine, huge numbers, but what is the HP/$? Sounds like building the engine was all about how much power could be produced, but with a bottomless money pit, what could not be accomplished? I guess I have a different outlook. I have my little, low-buck Cobra, with its low-buck Chebby engine, that runs in the 10s, after driving it 75 miles to the strip, and then back. I guess I could spend huge dollars on an exotic engine to get the same results, but I'd rather have the residual money to take a few trips to Italy.
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Karl, I cannot speak for the other blue oval people but for me I dont care whether it is a BBF or a Chebby, in a cobra I am a lot more impressed with the proper big block(even a chebby one) than a modern small block mustang or camaro engine. If I have a new mustang or Camaro(fugly as it is) that is one thing but would you put the small block V8 from a new camaro in your cobra and expect everyone would drool over it?
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Conversation, Did you see that cammer in that cobra? I did we just raced, my 5.4 supercharged cobra kicked its ass. How is that his motor costs 40,000 grand? It just does'nt put out as much power as mine, and it only cost me $40,000 for the whole car. Well it did look cool. I guess if you like losing. (ANYTIME YOU CAN MAKE MORE POWER FOR LESS MONEY, ITS ALWAYS MORE IMPRESSIVE THAN MAKING THE SAME POWER FOR MORE MONEY) HOW HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND.
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You can get a 500 dollar hooker or a 5 dollar hooker too.
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If it wasnt for the ORIGINAL Cammer, you wouldn't have yours. This was ever a discussion of power for the money, it was about a cool engine. I could make 800 -1000 hp with a junkyard motor and a bunch of parts with a supercharger but that wouldnt make it cool or worth much if you wanted to sell it. You are 100% right, that motor costs more than your whole car but the difference is that even in this market he could sell his motor for $40000 but a factory five with a mustang engine wouldnt get $20K. Fast yes, cheap horsepower, yes, cooler than that motor - NO
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