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| cobrabritt83 |
12-04-2013 02:45 PM |
comp. ratio 427
Does anybody know how to figure out what your comp. ratio will be when the manufacture dosen't list your combustion chamber size. It says 73cc 11:4:1,
76cc 11:0:1 dome volume -8cc, but i would like to know what it would be for 88cc chambers. I also would like to know what the limit is for comp. ratio (streetable) with cast iron heads using pump gas. thanks
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Originally Posted by cobrabritt83
(Post 1274784)
Does anybody know how to figure out what your comp. ratio will be when the manufacture dosen't list your combustion chamber size. It says 73cc 11:4:1,
76cc 11:0:1 dome volume -8cc, but i would like to know what it would be for 88cc chambers. I also would like to know what the limit is for comp. ratio (streetable) with cast iron heads using pump gas. thanks
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i don't like to exceed 10:1 with iron and 93 octane. others may have a different preference.
i'm not sure but last motor i remember doing i think it was 10cc=1 pt CR
so the info you were showing the 88cc would be about 10 CR...i think... the -8cc is a dished piston...
if your buying pistons provide the CC of the head, deck height, the rod length and state what CR you want and they will make them for you |
| DanEC |
12-04-2013 04:41 PM |
You can take this for what it's worth - but I could not talk Keith Craft into going above 9:1 with iron heads on my stroked 428. I felt this was overly conservative and wanted around 9.5:1, but he would not relent.
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| ERA Chas |
12-04-2013 05:15 PM |
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Originally Posted by DanEC
(Post 1274801)
You can take this for what it's worth - but I could not talk Keith Craft into going above 9:1 with iron heads on my stroked 428. I felt this was overly conservative and wanted around 9.5:1, but he would not relent.
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Probably largely due to the poor gas quality now. But for years I ran iron at 10.5 on 93 octane at 38 degrees. |
| Rick Parker |
12-04-2013 05:46 PM |
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You'll have to remember that the U.S. octane rating for gasoline is the average of the MON and RON numbers. That means 93 octane fuel purchased at one side of the street can be different than 93 octane fuel purchased from the other side of the street. That's because of the averaging that takes place to calculate the advertised octane value.
As a general rule, I'll not go over 9.5:1 static compression ratio for iron head rebuilds using 93 octane fuel but if the camshaft is on the wild side, then a higher static compression ratio can be tolerated simply due to the dynamic compression ratio getting lower as the intake duration on the camshaft increases. My general rule for dynamic compression ratio is 8.0:1 for 93 octane fuel. I did do an EMC engine in 2010 that was 10.5:1 static compression but 8.0:1 dynamic and ran fine on 86 MON fuel but this engine had 0.450" longer rods, a special dish design, and ceramic coatings in which to keep detonation at bay while using optimum ignition timing settings for power production. This was a dyno queen but the combination was optimized to run the lower MON octane fuel.
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| WardL |
12-08-2013 08:37 AM |
The online calculators will do it. Here are the equations: if you have a 427 Cubic Inches, multiply 427 by 16.387 to get 6,997 CC (your basic 7 Liter engine). Since you have 8 cylinders, divide by 8 to get each cylinder volume or 874.7 CC. So each cylinder is 874.7 CCs when the piston is at the bottom of the stoke. You say your combustion cylinder is 73 CC so 874.7 divided by 73 equals 12, so your compression ratio is 12:1. If your combustion cylinder size was 88 CC, then 874.7 divided by 88 would be 9.9 to 1. It's always good to check your calcs online somewhere.
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| DanEC |
12-09-2013 05:01 AM |
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Originally Posted by WardL
(Post 1275313)
The online calculators will do it. Here are the equations: if you have a 427 Cubic Inches, multiply 427 by 16.387 to get 6,997 CC (your basic 7 Liter engine). Since you have 8 cylinders, divide by 8 to get each cylinder volume or 874.7 CC. So each cylinder is 874.7 CCs when the piston is at the bottom of the stoke. You say your combustion cylinder is 73 CC so 874.7 divided by 73 equals 12, so your compression ratio is 12:1. If your combustion cylinder size was 88 CC, then 874.7 divided by 88 would be 9.9 to 1. It's always good to check your calcs online somewhere.
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I think to get very close with that you need to consider the head gasket thickness and definately the piston top popup/dish and where top of piston sits with respect to the engine block surface at TDC. These can make a pretty large difference in the final calculated compression ration. |
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