Survival Motorsports Road Trip / Build Thread

[blykins]

I don't think I've ever had both side by side. I have used both though, and off the top of my head, they seem pretty similar in height at the carb flange.

FWIW, I have a customer with a Unique Cobra, with an FE, and a Blue Thunder intake, and it fits fine. I also have a customer with an ERA with an FE and a Victor FE intake. It's close but fits. I don't think I have any SPF customers with FEs....all small blocks from what I remember.

[Mr Jody]

Good info Bill! I've been considering going a similar route as you, with the Blue Thunder dual plane and Barry's Felony heads, but just a 445 stroker. I welcome any other info you would like to provide on what else you are considering in your build (ie., carb, cam, lifters, rockers, etc.).

And thanks Brent, for the hood clearance information for a Unique. Just curious, what carb was used?

[blykins]

A Holley 750DP.

Mongoose, the Holley carb and dual points distributor is not really a handcuff. If the carb is worked and the distributor is curved, I wouldn't expect much of a hp difference.

I built a 427 S/O for a road race car. The rules stated it had to be a flat tappet camshaft, so I fired it on the dyno with a known-good MSD distributor, to eliminate start-up variables. We made pulls with it, then switched over to a dual point Mallory and there was no difference in hp. The beauty of the new stuff, however, is how easy you can change things, or the degree that you can change them. You can totally recurve an MSD in about 5 minutes. Not so much with a dual points style piece.

The more engines I build, the more fond I am of "old-school" setups.

[Detroit Bill]

Originally Posted by Mr Jody

Good info Bill! I've been considering going a similar route as you, with the Blue Thunder dual plane and Barry's Felony heads, but just a 445 stroker. I welcome any other info you would like to provide on what else you are considering in your build (ie., carb, cam, lifters, rockers, etc.).

And thanks Brent, for the hood clearance information for a Unique. Just curious, what carb was used?

Sorry I missed this.

I gave Barry a target and the behavior I was going for and left him to pick the parts. He Spec'd:

QFT-850 Vac for the carb
Rocker Arms T&D
Hydraulic Roller
Custom Cam
I asked for a PCV system trying to limit the mist in the engine compartment.

We need to discuss things a bit before he moves forward. I believe he is very busy which is good for him. I am trying not to bother him with BS which frankly is difficult because waiting is difficult and I have lots of questions.

I did order up a Shelby Aluminum Alternator Bracket set and a Aluminum polishing kit. I have a nice 1-1/2 horse motor with a 12" x 5/8" arbor. I am going to try my hand at polishing the alternator bracket and if it works out like I expect it to I will get some Blue Thunder Competition valve covers and polish them myself. It will be a lot of work but I have supplies at work that will help and time to kill waiting for the kit and components to be done. Looking at photos on the internet most seem to be aluminum finned 427 Cobra or Chrome Pentroofs. I was going to do something slightly different. Being a bolt on I can always change them if I want.

[Mark IV]

Bill,

Plan on looking like Al Jolsen in the "Jazz Singer" when you are polishing aluminum!

Sounds like Barry has a good handle on what you want to achieve.

Rick

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by Mark IV

Bill,

Plan on looking like Al Jolsen in the "Jazz Singer" when you are polishing aluminum!

This is true... I looked like Tin-man from wizard of oz when I polished mine.
Although time consuming and frustrating at times, it can be very therapeutic.

[Mr Jody]

Originally Posted by Detroit Bill

Sorry I missed this.

I gave Barry a target and the behavior I was going for and left him to pick the parts. He Spec'd:

QFT-850 Vac for the carb
Rocker Arms T&D
Hydraulic Roller
Custom Cam
I asked for a PCV system trying to limit the mist in the engine compartment.

.....if it works out like I expect it to I will get some Blue Thunder Competition valve covers and polish them myself..... Looking at photos on the internet most seem to be aluminum finned 427 Cobra or Chrome Pentroofs. I was going to do something slightly different. Being a bolt on I can always change them if I want.

Thanks for the info Bill. No problem on the delay. I am looking at probably going with a similar setup, although a 750 QFT with my smaller engine, and looking at low end torque over WOT HP. Good info on the PCV over just venting to limit mist.

I'm looking at going with something different on the VCs as well. I really like the baldy "Bird and Flags" 427 Thunderbolt look. If you have Barry's book you have probably seen some of these there. This is kind of what precipitated the Blue Thunder intake, as the baldys have no oil fill or vent openings, and the Edelbrock intake doesn't have the oil fill tube that the Blue Thunder does. I guess this seems like a roundabout way to go just for something cosmetic, but then kind of hard to go wrong with a Blue Thunder intake regardless of how you get there.

[Detroit Bill]

Originally Posted by Mr Jody

Thanks for the info Bill. No problem on the delay. I am looking at probably going with a similar setup, although a 750 QFT with my smaller engine, and looking at low end torque over WOT HP. Good info on the PCV over just venting to limit mist.

I'm looking at going with something different on the VCs as well. I really like the baldy "Bird and Flags" 427 Thunderbolt look. If you have Barry's book you have probably seen some of these there. This is kind of what precipitated the Blue Thunder intake, as the baldys have no oil fill or vent openings, and the Edelbrock intake doesn't have the oil fill tube that the Blue Thunder does. I guess this seems like a roundabout way to go just for something cosmetic, but then kind of hard to go wrong with a Blue Thunder intake regardless of how you get there.

Sounds like a good plan you might want to double check is a modern set of roller rockers will fit under the old school baldys.