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Setting Timing
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| Bernica |
05-05-2016 02:35 PM |
A good pair of Bluepoint circlip pliers with exchangeable tip sizes is a must in any toolbox!;):cool:
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| rodneym |
05-05-2016 02:40 PM |
I know. At first glance I thought there was a hole, not a channel.
Maybe it's easier but not the way it was designed.
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| patrickt |
05-05-2016 02:42 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
(Post 1390170)
I know. At first glance I thought there was a hole, not a channel.
Maybe it's easier but not the way it was designed.
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That little rod goes straight up and rotates on the shaft, so if there's any friction caused by the fastener, it will indeed screw things up. |
| Bernica |
05-05-2016 03:00 PM |
Circlip, snap-ring, e-clip....I think the difference is that a circlip or e-clip just pops on and off whie a snap-ring has holes for the pliers. I think either choice is better than the clothes pin.;)
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| patrickt |
05-05-2016 03:10 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
(Post 1390172)
Circlip, snap-ring, e-clip....I think the difference is that a circlip or e-clip just pops on and off whie a snap-ring has holes for the pliers. I think either choice is better than the clothes pin.;)
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I remember how careful I was pulling that circlip off, because I knew I would drop it. I had a sheet under it all and pulled it off with needle nose pliers. If there were any holes in the ends of the circlip, they would be damn small holes. I can't imagine trying to get the ends of pointy pliers in to holes that small. If I did, I'm sure the moment I pulled it off I'd hear a "sproingggg" type noise and that circlip would rocket off in to the corner of the garage somewhere and be lost forever.:( |
| Bernica |
05-05-2016 03:22 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
(Post 1390175)
I remember how careful I was pulling that circlip off, because I knew I would drop it. I had a sheet under it all and pulled it off with needle nose pliers. If there were any holes in the ends of the circlip, they would be damn small holes. I can't imagine trying to get the ends of pointy pliers in to holes that small. If I did, I'm sure the moment I pulled it off I'd hear a "sproingggg" type noise and that circlip would rocket off in to the corner of the garage somewhere and be lost forever.:(
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Yup. I have been there. They are "press-on, press off" little buggers and can cause some frustration at 10 pm when you lose one and thought you were almost finished! Now, before I try a project I look at all that stuff and go buy spares of all the things I know I will lose along the way. Better for my stress level and probably my marriage.:eek:;) |
| Large Arbor |
05-05-2016 06:36 PM |
Ok, I started up and let it warm up a little bit and put the timing light on it. I am sitting at 20 degrees at idle so I think I am going to retard the distributor a little bit and see what difference that makes. Idle still seems high. I need to find one of those keys to put on that vacuum link.
Phil
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| Bernica |
05-05-2016 06:40 PM |
If you are referring to just disconnecting the vacuum hose from the dizzy, just stick a golf tee in it.;)
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| Large Arbor |
05-05-2016 06:41 PM |
Oh, and that wacky clip was a temporary till I can get the one I need. I need to still play with the timing to see if I can dial it in better. Seems too far advanced.
Phil
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| Large Arbor |
05-05-2016 06:44 PM |
The distributor is the mechanical advance type.
Phil
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| Bernica |
05-05-2016 06:47 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Large Arbor
(Post 1390207)
The distributor is the mechanical advance type.
Phil
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Sorry, my bad. I thought you were on vacuum advance. Couldn't figure out what you were saying about a vacuum fitting... |
| patrickt |
05-05-2016 06:53 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Large Arbor
(Post 1390206)
Oh, and that wacky clip was a temporary till I can get the one I need. I need to still play with the timing to see if I can dial it in better. Seems too far advanced.
Phil
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What MSD bushing do you have in your distributor (that limits the total advance)? |
| Large Arbor |
05-05-2016 06:58 PM |
Black one, it was the same size that came out before. Also using the silver springs.
Phil
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| patrickt |
05-05-2016 07:04 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Large Arbor
(Post 1390211)
Black one, it was the same size that came out before. Also using the silver springs.
Phil
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The black one limits you to 18 degrees, so if you want to shoot for 35 degrees all in, your idle timing will be 17 degrees. If you find you want less idle timing, like me, then you're going to have to change your bushing so the total comes out to the sum that you want. The bushing is easily changed, just Google a vid for it on YouTube. I use the silver bushing, that limits the advance to 25 degrees, and I have 10 degrees at idle, so my all in timing is 35 degrees. |
| Large Arbor |
05-05-2016 07:18 PM |
Thanks Patrick. I will toy with different bushings. Seems Ike I have a lot of color choices but will try the silver one first.
Phil
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| patrickt |
05-05-2016 07:22 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Large Arbor
(Post 1390213)
Thanks Patrick. I will toy with different bushings. Seems Ike I have a lot of color choices but will try the silver one first.
Phil
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Here are the instructions: http://static.speedwaymotors.com/pdf/5478464.pdf Just get your initial timing to something that pleases you at idle and cranking. Then choose the bushing that adds up to what your total sum should be as recommended by your builder. Then you tweak the springs to have it come in as quickly as you can while keeping good engine manners. It's not that hard. |
| Bernica |
05-05-2016 07:23 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
(Post 1390212)
The black one limits you to 18 degrees, so if you want to shoot for 35 degrees all in, your idle timing will be 17 degrees. If you find you want less idle timing, like me, then you're going to have to change your bushing so the total comes out to the sum that you want. The bushing is easily changed, just Google a vid for it on YouTube. I use the silver bushing, that limits the advance to 25 degrees, and I have 10 degrees at idle, so my all in timing is 35 degrees.
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Wow, 10 degrees to 25 all in Patrick? Sounds low, but I am sure I'm missing something. I have always been at 18/36 or thereabouts...:confused: |
| patrickt |
05-05-2016 07:29 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
(Post 1390216)
Wow, 10 degrees to 25 all in Patrick? Sounds low, but I am sure I'm missing something. I have always been at 18/36 or thereabouts...:confused:
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No, ten initial but 35 total. Here is my timing curve.
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...utor_curve.jpg |
| Large Arbor |
05-05-2016 07:37 PM |
I want to be at 35 degrees at 4,000 rpm.
Phil
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| patrickt |
05-05-2016 07:39 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Large Arbor
(Post 1390220)
I want to be at 35 degrees at 4,000 rpm.
Phil
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If I wanted it to come in later I would just use a stiffer spring combination, but I think you'll find having it all come in before 3000 RPM to be quite rewarding.;) |
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