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I thought you were going to say it was broken. You know, because it has a crack in it....:p |
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I agree with most of what you wrote, so I don't need to write myself. The small block 427ci are a great engine, put down the powerand sound awesome, but with my 427 Cobra, it would be too much work to take off the 427 logo on the fenders and replace with a 427w. ;) I need a 427, 428 or 385 series. Lately, the monstor torque down low, higher HP and price of a 385 series is on my mind and the sound and feel of that power gives my a shawing ! (at my age, that's a blessing) :LOL: What keeps me back a little is it going to be too tall and/or too wide and maybe, needing to saw out my hood scoop and buy/make a new one and asuming repainting the blue hood and custom white pearl stripes. I made extra back in 2001, but not the white pearl. So, what's goinf to win, my sprint car power, feel and sound over a lot of work ? Hum......:rolleyes: Oh hell, open up the hood and put a frickin blower on it ! 6-71 hum....:JEKYLHYDE Rodknock, you're a good guy to. (most the time anyway) lol And to all you gearheads, if it's true that people have gotten away from chatting here and going for just answers to questions, lets bring back the old days ! Bench racing is what I'm used to and it's not only a learning session, IT'S FUN ! I will never just buy anything, because it's popular or cheap. Like buying a stock 460, 428 or even a awesome but stock side oiler. Not gonna happen captain ! If any of these put out 1,000 HP stock, I'd still modify it ! That''s where it's fun boyzzz. Example. Our local track went from racing our 360/410 sprint cars to a cheaper IMCA 305 engine, and although the engines went from $30-000/$40,000 down to $9,000, it ain't the same ! So, we can't afford to travel, so we just go to special high paying events. But, to new drivers, the 550-600 HP is extremely fast and enough power, but to us, it's like going from top fuel down to methanol. To Brent, I'm sorry buddy, I did not mean to come down so hard on you. You're a good guy and sounds like you build one hell of an engine, no matter what it is. But please understand, I need to bench race, chatter when I feel well enough, and ***** when needed. lol, kidding. Just because we and others have different opinions doesen't mean we have to aurgue and blow punchs. What's so,ooo sad, is I hate Trump, but my uncle loves him. I asked for his help on a project and he said ok. But a few months ago I started a rant about Trump on Facebook, and he wrote then called to say I needed to stop or he won't help me ! Are you kidding,..... Trump and politics over family ! :eek: :rolleyes: Ah well, back to Cobra talk ! If fact, what has happened to the other Cobra related forums ? What about CC, it used to be like 3 pages long of new threads,and now it's down to one. Where is everybody ? |
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Harvard just rescinded the acceptances of 10 students who posted offending gifs, memes and/or pics, so I don't want to be thrown off Club Cobra for posting offending material. You know, Club Cobra is the Harvard of the car forums. :LOL: |
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Barry just had a brand new block lose oil pressure while priming the oil pump on the dyno and found out that a main oil passage had been drilled through.....so it was just bleeding out internally. I've had brand new blocks that needed sleeves. I've had brand new blocks that needed lifter bore sleeves because of porosity. There are some cast iron blocks floating around where the lifter bores are not finish-drilled all the way through, so there's a step at the bottom. It's really beginning to not be worth it. When you have a back log of orders and you have to pull one off the dyno to fix something or you don't find something that should have been done until the block is finished and painted, it just pushes everything back. Not to mention that I can make the same horsepower with a SBF with 50 less cubic inches.... |
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For me, if the decision has been made NOT to go with an FE in a 427 Cobra, then I'd go with the easiest, fastest and most reliable modern FI solution that's readily available. If that's a Chevy or Mopar, then so be it. But I don't want to hear any complaints, moaning and whining about the parts this or the parts that from either the engine or car builder. I want near-Toyota Camry reliability. |
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FORD FE BIG BLOCK 428 - 560 HORSE CRATE ENGINE /PRO-BUILT/NEW 390 427 ALUM HEAD |
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Well, maybe there is ONE more point to ponder: Personal tolerance level regarding oil leaks. :p |
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I thought you told the bloke to rack off. :o ...not to be rude, but does it really matter? You're unlikely to be purchasing one of these, last I recall they were out of stock. In any case, I think I was pushing for you to get an Fe early, but that's because that's what I like. The more I think about it, perhaps you're better off with 385 series. By the sound of it, you and your build already seem very much committed to that path. So it's likely your build would proceed quicker and smoother with a 385 series. You might even still be alive to enjoy it. :eek: Further if the worse imaginable were to happen, repair costs would be more manageable for you. It's a win win for you. Cheap power, easier build option, and if it's important to you, it's still a Ford and a "big block". Now hence forth a search accordingly. ;) |
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I'm not sure I trust these 50 yr old blocks, and the new are too costly. Now quality is questionable on top of that. How much longer can the FE dominate the Cobra Pack? |
As for the 385 series fitting in a Cobra, I recall reading quite a few threads on having to use a certain intake and / or milling a 1/4" or so off the carb flange, to get the hood to close with a drop base air cleaner. I know they are tight to fit in some manufactures, and I suspect it just may not fit at all in some others.
I rode in a new then (2005ish) Superformance with a 532 bought from Ford Racing. It fit. I just looked at a Kirkham at the London show, with a V12 in it. The Valve cover said 800+ on it. I assume that was cubic inches. I talked to the ower's wife (let's say ultimately the true owner) for a bit. Every time she told me the manufacture's name someone would drop the hammer on a burnout. I gather the engine was some type of boat engine, and only a couple dozen or so were built. She said Kirkham special built the car around the engine. Now that was neat to see. I wish I had heard it run. |
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I've heard it run.... :3DSMILE: It sounds like a WWII fighter plane. The owner (Jeff) is a local Az guy - (screen name here is azcobra12) The engine is an 860cid custom offshore racing V12 built by Torque Engineering (they are out of business now)- The owner told us they re-cammed and de-tuned the boat engine to make about 1000hp for the street. This shot was snapped by Bob Broberg a few months back (Bob is the OG-est of the OG Arizona Cobra dudes): http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...pscrr0qpjk.jpg And a couple more (taken by IntCobra) back when the car was being built at Kirkham: http://www.1ntcobra.com/Kirkham2016/_DSC0705.jpg http://www.1ntcobra.com/Kirkham2016/_DSC0706.jpg http://www.1ntcobra.com/Kirkham2016/_DSC0718.jpg |
What can I say, but wow.
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Now those are some pipes! Yikes.
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If it's word doing,it's worth doing in excess.....!
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While a monster power V 12 would be ultimate thick dic swingign rights, I think the sound would underwhelm. V12's typically fire LRLRLRLRLRLR. American V8's almost always LRLLRLRR giving them that special lope. The V12 would sound like an extra loud UPS truck.
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The V12s I've seen (Ferrari, Aston) also have a very high red line, so while they don't have that lopey V8 rumble, they have a Formula 1 sound when operating at WOT. It all depends on what you're looking for.
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