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I did not go through the effort to examine the drawings in detail, post shots of my car and write up the technical differences to start a pissing contest. In fact I went out of my way to qualify my remarks by saying the drawings may be incomplete and I wasn't trying to make smart a$$ comments. None of my comments were/are derogatory to H'cane or it's customers. Or any OTHER mfgrs products on this board-ever. I joined this thread because I saw several posts/threads like the "Why Hurricane?" thread which have had overwhelmingly positive comment. So this thread allowed me to see what all the glory was about. Then I realized the surprising differences. Now I'm pleased that a company rescued a failing replica business and gave us all an affordable additional choice when Cobra shopping. We all have different budgets, standards and ideas about what these cars should be to please us. But your point about jacking a corner (on your car) surprises me greatly because I just went back and studied the first drawing of Drivin's post. The door hinge post when viewed from this angle does not appear to be a post at all. Looks like a flat plate welded to a short vertical tube. And the bottom edge is attached to the dropped foot tray-which has no support structure to the outrigger tubes aft of it! And the rear latch-that just mystifies me. The cowl bar is placed atop this partial post and perimeter welded (I hope) in place. No gussets or support structure. If your car is not stressed by racing or accident then you can sleep soundly at night. Jacking a corner doesn't prove squat-virtually every mfgr who's been a commercial success can do that parlor trick. Go 25 years without stress cracks in a car that's not a lawn queen and I'll be a little more impressed. I know you own it already and could care less but I urge those shopping to visit the ERA site and look for the points I brought out here. ERA uses tube-in-tube, perimeter butted tigs on Z-cuts and gussets throughout. If the H'cane will support your needs-by all means own it. Which leads to my final point. Putnam, Pete and Phil did this design 25+ years ago-Hurricane wasn't even a gleam then. They had only to view the best of all the current mfgrs chassis like JBL, FFR, KMP and ERA to have a product that's a first class effort. Seems like some corners were cut for expediency. Lot of guys seem preoccupied with the curve here and the flair there and which way the butt points for 'originality'. I'm sure there are many guys who own/crave H'canes but I wonder if they've seen what the top competition has been turning out. |
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It was sunny on the Coast on Saturday, so I was able to take my car for a nice run up Hwy 1 past Davenport and back to Santa Cruz. You gotta try harder to get the car out man. :3DSMILE: Yet another side track to the point of the thread. Oh well, so sue me. :LOL: |
I feel for you guys up north... all that cabin fever brings out the "best."
Personally, I am just happy that Hurricane has come back to market... yet another quality manufacturer will only serve to improve all through competition. I feel honored that Hurricane is mentioned among such fine company in this and the other recent thread. |
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I must agree with you, if in fact these drawings are in the final stages of completion. When I first viewed the drawings I was not impressed with the way the entire front cowl structure appears to be mounted to the sheet metal foot box's by a very weak framework. Looks like it would not be very strong & allow for excessive cowl shake. JMHO Craig |
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So what's your opinion of Superformance Chassis? |
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You ERA guy's just keep posting and proving your "holier than thou" attitude. It's too bad the rest of us peons don't have an ERA so we could be as cool as you. Quit hijacking others threads trying to prove how great your cars are and how inferior everything else is.:rolleyes: It's funny. Last year we had a benefit car show with over a dozen Cobras including an original 1964 all parked together, but when an ERA showed up, he refused to park with us. Is there some kind of a pact that you have to sign when you buy one that states you will always be an azzhole when it comes to interacting with others? It sure seems that way. According to the FFR guys, the ERA frame is crap. How do you like that? |
The verticle cowl brace and it's attachment point at the frame in the drawing isn't the same as my car. Not sure how accurate the drawings are in showing the type of tubing used. My car is square boxed tube.
Maybe a change in the newer cars? Don't know. Larry |
Hurricane is capable of conducting SFA on their existing product designs and assumedly could do the same here if they choose to. If one of you ERA owners wants to go slam your car into a dump truck and have your heirs report back the results, we'll definitely use that for comparison should they ever test the Hurricane. :LOL:
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Ah yes , we all love our little toys and trying to prove that "mine is bigger than yours" is fun to say to least.
Each Cobra has their respective strong points along with weaknesses base on some fact and mostly the owners perceptions. It's easy to pick apart another car, but in reality they all do the job, unless your a real racer and compete. If you want to find out which car is the strongest....run it into a brick wall at 100 mph and then flip it over a 1000' cliff, if the driver is still alive...that is the best car. What about all that messy wiring on the firewall..fuses and stuff? |
My internet goes down for one day and there is already trouble on the play ground. Rat and ERA, you make some good points, however your tone makes you sound like an ass. Lets get a Hurricane Chassis and post some pictures then lets see an ERA chassis. Then we will see what there is to see. On the other hand, who give a sh#t if someone likes my frame or not! My Kirkham frame was the weakest frame I have ever had when it comes to torsional rigidity. I don't here people talking about that. ERA boys, is your chassis better than the Kirkham too! You guys are really something else. Patrick excluded, you have been helpful.
The price difference is so great that you can have a top of the line Hurricane complete kit and a new 24ft enclosed Hallmark trailer to put it in or you could wait 2 years for an ERA kit? Which would you choose? There have been a lot of advancements in automotive technology in 25 years even though the "skin" looks the same. |
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