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427 S/O 04-22-2008 11:14 AM

Enough enough!!!!!!!!
 
Is the $50 million in aid we give them every year not enough????. I forgot the details but, I remember two previous incidents of Israel stealing US secrets....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352118,00.html

trularin 04-22-2008 11:26 AM

I do not understand this whole thing, but then again, I do not think we are supposed to understand.

:D :D

427sharpe 04-22-2008 12:18 PM

Hard to tell who our friends are anymore...:(
I often wonder if push came to shove who the jewish supporters would support; Israel or America. So many jewish groups still pleading for Pollards release. And no sanctions every placed on Israel for the major cases or espionage. Seems like so many of them see Israel first, last and foremost. Whatever happened to loyalty to home---America.

CobraEd 04-22-2008 12:37 PM

Isn't the amount in the billions each year, as a gift????? that they never pay back????


If we did not subsidize their entire culture, they would be riding around the desert on camels like the Arabs.

It is the Zionist lobbyists that are to blame.

:mad:

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427 S/O 04-22-2008 02:08 PM

If it was tit-for-tat, I wouldn't mind, It's just all the support, money and political we give them and they continue trying to undermind us!. IMO..we should continue our support of Israel and they, in turn, should show a little character.

CobraEd 04-22-2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 427 S/O (Post 837195)
If it was tit-for-tat, I wouldn't mind, It's just all the support, money and political we give them and they continue trying to undermind us!. IMO..we should continue our support of Israel and they, in turn, should show a little character.


Never gonna happen! Their first and only concern is themselves.

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Ron61 04-22-2008 02:23 PM

Ed,

That applies to a lot of countries that hate us and we still give them foreign aid. If they had cut that stuff off years ago, there wouldn't be so many countries now.

Ron :rolleyes:

fsstnotch 04-22-2008 02:30 PM

Kinda like the millions sent a couple weeks ago to help with rising food prices... meanwhile we are ALSO paying higher food prices. When is OUR gov't going to start helping US?!

Ron61 04-22-2008 02:34 PM

Govts., which are politicians banded together only help themselves and each other. If any of that money actually got to the people to help feed them it wouldn't be so bad. But it just goes into their crooked leaders pockets. Instead of money to help them out, why don't we send them Hillery for a few years?

Ron :D

427 S/O 04-22-2008 02:39 PM

The biggest farce lately is the ethanol stampede, I've mentioned before, it cost as much or more to make ethanol, than it produces...it's total BS. And that's one of the reasons food prices have increased.

imagine2frolic 04-22-2008 02:49 PM

Aren't we suppose to hang traitors? There should be no jail time.......just the noose!

427sharpe 04-22-2008 05:45 PM

Kadish is a Connecticut-born U.S. citizen who worked as a mechanical engineer at the Army's Picatinny Arsenal in Dover, New Jersey.

Another disgusting tidbit crawls out of the pile......
And then a judge gives him $300,000 bail...AND LETS HIM OUT?!?!?!?!?!?
WTF???
I thought traitors were supposed to be hung......:mad:
must have missed the updated memo excluding spies who work for 'allies' %/

VRM 04-23-2008 10:20 AM

Interesting - I posted some stuff similar stuff a couple of years ago and was promptly branded as anti-Semitic for not wanting my country to bend over for Israel.

Steve

427sharpe 04-23-2008 01:00 PM

Steve;
I expected the same myself as I wrote my entries above....:LOL:
Maybe the 'anti-semitic' card has been played out. Hopefully the 'racist' card will be next to fall from the deck. :3DSMILE:

Ron61 04-23-2008 02:32 PM

:LOL:

Hey 427,

Would it make you feel better if I take Real 1s place for this thread? Problem is, I agree with you and it is hard to start a good argument when you don't really believe what you are arguing for. :p

Ron :JEKYLHYDE

427sharpe 04-23-2008 05:28 PM

Thanks Ron, but it's not necessary! :LOL:
It is curious how the normal flamers have avoided this one...guess they agree with us to! :eek::eek::eek:

Ronbo 04-23-2008 10:17 PM

It's a crummy situation all around. But I can't say I'm worried about Isreal having the info. There have been many times in the past where we've cut deals with the friggin Arabs only for them to use the money to... attack Isreal.

So I guess the question is "why would they trust us??".

Don't believe we aren't pulling the same crap on them, we are.

Guess who built Saudi Arabia's version of NORAD? Northrup-grummin. Guess who the stuff is trained on? Isreal.

Governments have long histories of stabbing "friends" in the back, including ours.

VRM 04-24-2008 07:45 AM

Israel will do what they need to do to protect their own interests. This has included trading secrets stolen from us to Russia so that Russia would allow Jews to move to Israel.
We shouldn't trust them, and they should not trust us. Both countries should always keep their own interests as their #1 priority.

Steve


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