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wtm442 03-08-2009 09:33 AM

Alan Keyes on Obama
 

Dan40 03-08-2009 10:45 AM

He's pretty wishy-washy, I wish he'd say what he means and quit beating around the bush.:JEKYLHYDE

Don't know about the birthright.

But hard to argue with the economics.
A bankrupt Government going to save a bankrupt financial industry? AFTER it WAS the bankrupt Government that INSURED [unknowingly, I hope] that the financial industry would fail.
Our Government, for some decades now, has shown the total inability to project the future. At lunch, they are clueless about the afternoon, AND they have no recall of the morning.
No concept of the consequences of their acts for the future or any memory of those consequences in the past.
ReElectionitis is the only thing they suffer from and act upon. No other agenda exists.

How can they miss?"

Dan

Fred Douglass 03-08-2009 02:19 PM

Actually..........
 
......if Obama's mother was 16 (the legal age of "consent" in most principalities and states) AND she herself was a natural-born (or even naturalized, for that matter) citizen at the time of his birth, then the Obamessiah could have been born in an airplane over the Pacific Ocean and he'd still be a natural-born citizen of the US.

What'saCobra? 03-08-2009 11:18 PM

Additionally...
 
i read that there was, at the time, a further requirement that the mother/father would have to have also been a resident of the USA for at least 5 years prior to the child's birth outside the USA/territory, which she allegedly does not satisfy.

Further, certain Kenyan relatives (Paternal Grandmother and others) seem quite sure He was born in Kenya. The Kenyan government has nothing to say about the matter.

Even further, some folks are certain that if He was adopted in Indonesia, a citizenship requirement to attend Muslim Indonesian schools existed and he would no longer be naturalized, even if he was born in the USA. Of course, this could have been "fixed" properly, if the paperwork exists.

My pet theory is that the paperwork doesn't exist because it was never filed. Liberals rarely file paperwork properly... they are subject to different rules than us plebes. We now know they have a completely different individual tax policy, including deadlines, deduction permissions, rental income exclusions and gift receipt realizations. My bet will be that she never bothered to "fix" the citizenship issue, but that the issue was "cured" during his vacation in Hawaii after the election.

His mom was certainly footloose and fancy free, since her "husband" was already married. Perhaps that sort of thing turns-on liberal women. i don't really know.

This is not a settled issue in many people's minds and quite intelligently so. Why the stone-wall? Is He allowed a 5th Amendment defense?

Seems unlikely that the Supremes will want to take a direct hand in this matter, if it would include a reversal.

Fred Douglass 03-09-2009 11:53 AM

I'm really not sure, but........
 
...if his skanky Mom was a US citizen, then all other considerations are moot (as that cow just said)....

elmariachi 03-09-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred Douglass (Post 928124)
...if his skanky Mom was a US citizen, then all other considerations are moot (as that cow just said)....

Not true. Under the laws of the US at the time of his birth, if a child was born abroad, and one parent was a U.S. citizen, Obama’s mother would have had to have lived ten years in the U.S., five of which were after she reached the age of 14. At the time of Obama’s birth, his mother was only 18, and therefore did not meet the requirements under the law to give her son U.S. Citizenship. All of this being further moot by the fact that she automatically lost her citizenship (surrendering his as well as her minor child) when she married the Indonesian, Barry Soetoro. Even Obama's school enrollment shows he was an "Indonesian citizen" of Muslim faith:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by What'saCobra? (Post 927963)
My bet will be that she never bothered to "fix" the citizenship issue, but that the issue was "cured" during his vacation in Hawaii after the election.

Agreed.

SP01715 03-09-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by elmariachi (Post 928127)
Not true. Under the laws of the US at the time of his birth, if a child was born abroad, and one parent was a U.S. citizen, Obama’s mother would have had to have lived ten years in the U.S., five of which were after she reached the age of 14. At the time of Obama’s birth, his mother was only 18, and therefore did not meet the requirements under the law to give her son U.S. Citizenship. All of this being further moot by the fact that she automatically lost her citizenship (surrendering his as well as her minor child) when she married the Indonesian, Barry Soetoro. Even Obama's school enrollment shows he was an "Indonesian citizen" of Muslim faith:

This is what I have heard as well.

Fred Douglass 03-09-2009 08:18 PM

Turns out......
 
..I really WASN'T sure! With good reason. I stand corrected. Now I had better check my own citizenship (just in case I want to run for President)!

PS: I STILL think she WAS a skank........

elmariachi 03-09-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Douglass (Post 928298)
PS: I STILL think she WAS a skank........



Skank doesn't even come close.....

lust4fia 03-12-2009 11:13 AM

I think I like that guy. Wow, someone with the balls to call it like it is!


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