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Fred Douglass 04-10-2009 08:03 PM

You guys are SO-O-Ooooooo RIGHT!
 
D'ya think if this turns into another Jimma Cawtuh show, that the Great Unwashed Amurricun Public will FINALLY have had enuff of "liberal sensibilities"? I doubt it. You can fix ignorance but not bovine stupidity. And bribing people with their own money is likely to put the Messiah in good shape for Obama II.

I hope the Captain makes it----and I hope this doesn't go the way of the old CG and the old Semus Kuderka (Sp?) incident in Vineyard Sound*. This sure ain't the Navy I was involved with. Kroikeys!!!!!

*Wow! Did I drag THAT one out of the attic!

Carrion,

Oh, P.S. Wasn't that a touching little scene of Hillary and Obama kanoodling at a picnic table while our brave and selfless captain sweats it out with those worm-eaten pukes on the lifeboat?

Rick Parker 04-10-2009 10:37 PM

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The only justice would be to cut them and throw all overboard, save one. Let him go back and tell the others.
Roscoe:

Great idea, they could draw straws???

427 S/O 04-11-2009 06:26 AM

Pirates on a German ship with 24 foreign hostages said Saturday they had returned to the Somali coast after failing to locate the scene of a standoff involving an American captive on a drifting lifeboat.


Is it possible the navy blocked or somehow screwed with the on board GPS or radar?. the pirates had no problem finding other ships?.



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,514415,00.html

Dan40 04-11-2009 08:45 AM

I would guess, and hope, that we have some intel about the locations of the pirates shore buildings. And if there is any communication between the pirates in the lifeboat and their bosses on shore, the Navy knows it and can block it.
I wonder what kind of message would be received if 4 aircraft delivered 8 precision guided 2000 pounders on their shore facilities? At the very least, that would speed up the negotiation process.

map 04-11-2009 01:39 PM

Pay the ransom get the Captain, then turn the Phalanx CIWS on them, then bring in the AC-130s or B-52s and clear the shore line "Kill them all and let God sort them out"! I'm getting so tired of DC being a bunch of Pussies!

All the American flagged ships should have the Phalanx CIWS system!
It never sleeps anything within 1/2 mile is drift wood and chum..:LOL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgpQBZF2sZQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH5RV...eature=related

Fred Douglass 04-11-2009 02:40 PM

Far ye oof Scots ancestry.........
 
.....Barack Obama-boy is "Toom Tabard"!

Didn't you love it when he redirected the question about the (latest) hostage crisis by saying: "Uhh-h we're talkin' about housing now....". Then sat down at the picnic table and had a yuck with Hillary.

How can we get rid of this incompetent sissy-pants?

Doug I 04-11-2009 09:26 PM

"How can we get rid of this incompetent sissy-pants?"

How about .... I dunno .... putting him before Congress??

I did say something else ... but ....

Could his lack of leadership and lack of direction and ability in this matter constitute "aiding and abetting the enemy" I can't see any valid reason of him to sit on his ass and do nothing - which does help our enemies in that they now know that the Navy is so crippled by touchy-feel-good leaders that it's now pretty much useless. Hell now even the french have more spine and a bigger set.

427 S/O 04-12-2009 07:06 AM

Somethings gotta' give and most likely it will be the need for drinking water, it starts working on you hard after about two days to the point of 'anything for a drink'.

Fred Douglass 04-12-2009 10:56 AM

I can tell you one thing......
 
...if the US Navy allows that buncha Somalian arseholes to actually row that lifeboat (past them) and to shore...every goddamned head in the Naval (and Federal) leadership, including the White House, should roll. It's simple (especially with bow-thrusters) to maneuver several ships alongside----"docking" one against the lifeboat, if you will. THEN what are those morons gonna do? Put 'em a destroyer sandwich, for cry-yigh!!!

The American captain was indeed selfless and heroic, but he knew the risks. I wonder, if a bunch of SEALs was called into play, how the pirates would handle it. I doubt very much that they'd kill the Captain. Nonetheless, note that all our "unconventional" forces at sea are in RIBs---emphasis on "inflatable". Not precisely "bullet-proof", I'd say! Real genius at work there, huh?

Way back in 197? Semus Kuderka (my bionic spelling) jumped from a Russian trawler onto, or aboard, a USCG cutter in Vinyard Sound ('WAY within US territorial waters). The CO of the cutter wet his panties, and called USCG District 1 HQ Boston, where the decision was made to allow the Russians to BOARD the USCG cutter, retake Kuderka---brutally---and drag him back aboard the trawler. We should reverse that scenario RIGHT NOW!!!!!

We need to do a testosterone-level check on all Federal Admin types (and not just the Navy), arm our flagged vessels, man them with all-American crews, and generally cut the sissy crap---YESTERDAY. Refit ALL the Iowas, and unleash unvarnished, pitiless HELL on those dung-beetles in Somalia (and everywhere else piracy is occurring).

Biden was right---on both his predictions.

TOOM TABARD Obama has got to be "relieved of command".

Dan40 04-12-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fred Douglass (Post 939093)
.....Barack Obama-boy is "Toom Tabard"!

Didn't you love it when he redirected the question about the (latest) hostage crisis by saying: "Uhh-h we're talkin' about housing now....". Then sat down at the picnic table and had a yuck with Hillary.

How can we get rid of this incompetent sissy-pants?

I don't mind Obama NOT talking with the media about this. Better he lets the press AND the PIRATES wander about without any info.
PROVIDING he acts like the "Commander in Chief." And lets his Navy do what they are capable of doing. And that is taking the pirates out. YES, the hero Captain could lose his life in a rescue attempt. That's ugly, and that's reality.
Maybe they do get him out alive, maybe they don't. Either way the pirates become chum. If the Captain is not rescued alive, that insures an airstrike on land. If he is rescued alive, well hell, the airstrike was already planned, go ahead with it.:cool:

Its if Obama plays the liberal, "Coward in Chief," role that concerns me. What then?

Dan

map 04-12-2009 11:11 AM

If Barry had some NUTS he would show the Somali outlaws there's a new sheriff in town and give them a afternoon of carpet bombing from 30K!

And WHY is the FBI there! %/

twobjshelbys 04-12-2009 11:42 AM

RESCUED

Seals got him in a surprise raid.

Three pirates killed. One in custody. Just saw the break in special report on NBC (Watching, of all things, poker :))

It was a matter of time. Wear them out with no water or food and just wait for the right time.

427 S/O 04-12-2009 11:44 AM

He's FREE!!!, can't wait for the details............ America at it's best!!!!!!!!.




http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,514719,00.html

Dan40 04-12-2009 12:19 PM

While Obama was in church! Perfect. I'll give him this one. The rescue attempt had to be authorized in DC and it was successful. I won't knock Obama again until tax day!

Dan

Doug I 04-12-2009 07:15 PM

I'll knock him.

It took way to long. Way to long.

Sorry mister C-in-C; in my book you get a zip on this one.

computerworks 04-12-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug I (Post 939374)
I'll knock him.

It took way to long. Way to long.

Sorry mister C-in-C; in my book you get a zip on this one.

Quote:

President Obama twice authorized the military to rescue a U.S. captain held by Somali pirates and whose life appeared to be at risk.

A senior administration official told FOX News that Obama granted the authority on Friday and Saturday to use appropriate force to rescue Capt. Richard Phillips from a lifeboat off the Somali coast. The Pentagon believed Phillips' life was at risk both times, officials said.

C-in-C left the ultimate decision in the hands of the military on site...and rightly so.

twobjshelbys 04-12-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan40 (Post 939273)
While Obama was in church! Perfect. I'll give him this one. The rescue attempt had to be authorized in DC and it was successful. I won't knock Obama again until tax day!

Dan

Godfather?

olddog 04-12-2009 09:22 PM

Hmmmmmmm!!! You may use appropriate force. Wonder just what appropriate force is defined to be. That could be a manual a 100 pages long, for all we know. Why not just authorize deadly force? And why would you have to authorize such force two days in a row if it was in the hands of the military on site?

I have suspected that this was micro managed from DC ever since the captain jumped out of the boat, and the navy allowed the pirates to recapture the captain without a shot fired. How disappointed that captain must have been! I suspect the Navy had their hands tied at that point, or it would have be over right then and there.

I may be senical and untrusting, but my experiance has proven that it is the wisest approach.

Dan40 04-13-2009 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by twobjshelbys (Post 939406)
Godfather?

Don Barack Corleone?

Buzz 04-13-2009 10:44 AM

That was great news as it unfolded. I think the Navy missed the first opportunity to take the pirates out, but they made good on the next one. Kudos where kudos are due!

Kinda sad and hopefully not the case, but it almost seems like some people would actually have preferred this to have dragged on or gone bad so they could reinforce their positions on Obama's inability to act. When it was looking like a stalemate it was all his fault, now that it is successfully resolved, he had nothing to do with it. Obama is definitely not above or undeserving of criticism, but do some of you guys actually listen to yourselves? Do the words honesty, objectivity and credibility mean anything at all to you?


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