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Originally Posted by cobra bill (Post 986487)

I never said to get rid of them, they need to be put back in their place, this is not what the founding fathers had in mind, they had to come under review every 2 years and if they were found to be not beneficial to the country they would lose the corporate status, they are now arguing for personhood, so they can have free reign of campaign financing, as a first amendment right, this is dangerous and needs to be stopped. The way the supreme court is stacked in favor of the corporations, this will be set as president and that, will be judicial activism.

Pretty hard to restrict Corporations with these around:

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I find it hard to blame corporations for the fact that politicians will sell their integrity, their votes, and their country for money, or power, or prestige, or fame, or sex.
You want to stop corporate influence? JAIL people like Frank and Rangel. And many, many others! Take away their bribe earned funds, and lock them away for a long time. Cancel the Gold plated retirement and health care programs they voted for themselves. Make it more expensive in every way to be dishonest. Since we cannot instill HONOR in our politicians, instill FEAR!

Thats a good plan Dan, but I haven't got a clue what it has to do with being a liberal, conservative, middle of the road, Demo or Repub. Some things are just obvious.

Cobra Bill,
The perfect corporation will produce a product with as little cost as possible and sell for the maximum profit. A minimum cost option might be slave labour as Germany and Japan did in WW2. Government has the power and responsibility to prevent the corporation from doing things that run contrary to the values of that society.
As Dan said - our politicians are corrupt - the corporations are doing what they are designed to do. The regulators are not. I'd throw Dodd, Gramm, and a whole bunch of others in with Frank and Rangel.

Steve

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Originally Posted by Excaliber (Post 986513)

Thats a good plan Dan, but I haven't got a clue what it has to do with being a liberal, conservative, middle of the road, Demo or Repub. Some things are just obvious.

A Conservative view of a Corporation would never allow it to become a "person." Same applies to ANIMALS, which some Liberals want to award "People Status" to animals too.
That is not to say that Progressives disguised as Conservatives wouldn't do likewise. A Politician may claim to be a Conservative, or a Liberal, or a Progressive, but in reality, they are all just politicians, first and foremost.

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Originally Posted by Dan40 (Post 986517)

I understand your line of thought here, but it's not true, there has been a concerted effort to stack the deck on the supreme court with conservative judges since the late 70 and it is there intent to give corporations personhood, it's what justice Roberts was paid 2 million a year for when he was in privet practice working for a corporation. He and the other conservatives on the bench will push for it this year, the case has already been heard, we are waiting on a decision.

if you want to see a video clip about it, go to
www.colbertnation.com/the word/letfreedomkaching
not sure if this is right, I can't access it from work, if you go to the nation and search the video clip library, the episode was called let freedom ka ching
it aired on Tuesday Sept 15

Great place to gather substantial and factual information. "COMEDY CENTRAL". Of course you citing this has to be a joke too. :LOL:

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Originally Posted by cobra bill (Post 986553)

It the words of that great philosopher, John McEnroe,
"You CANNOT be Serious!"

What you guys don't get your news from Comedy Central?

Originally Posted by cobra bill View Post
I understand your line of thought here, but it's not true, there has been a concerted effort to stack the deck on the supreme court with conservative judges since the late 70 and it is there intent to give corporations personhood, it's what justice Roberts was paid 2 million a year for when he was in privet practice working for a corporation. He and the other conservatives on the bench will push for it this year, the case has already been heard, we are waiting on a decision.

NOW THAT'S FUNNY!!!! Ever hear of FDR's attempt to stack the Supremes

Roscoe

Hey, oddly enough, they are a better source for news then the corporate news, the only news out there that is worth anything is either PBS or BBC. What we get for news from everyone else is crap, its infotainment not news.

Keep plucking that chicken, Space Bill.

Ha! your such a nancy!