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PCW 08-27-2009 08:32 AM
Another SB100 Question
 
All,

If I have a car built as a total turnkey, weather here in CA or out of state, will I have issues with SB100? Thinking of have a Superformance (dealer here is CA) or Backdraft (dealer out of state) and just want to make sure a complete turnkey will work with the SB100.

Thanks,

PCW

Got the Bug 08-27-2009 08:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCW (Post 978266)
All,

If I have a car built as a total turnkey, weather here in CA or out of state, will I have issues with SB100? Thinking of have a Superformance (dealer here is CA) or Backdraft (dealer out of state) and just want to make sure a complete turnkey will work with the SB100.

Thanks,

PCW
If the car is brand new (never registered), then you won't be able to register a full turnkey car in California under SB100. If you're going to build or buy a car, you'll need to have separate receipts for the roller and engine/trans. That's pretty standard, if you buy a roller then have someone else do the install.

Randy Rosenberg 08-27-2009 08:50 AM
PCW,

The simple answer is: Yes, the issue you will have is that you will NOT be able to title/register it in CA. SB100 is only for Specially Constructed Vehicles, which by definition are not "turnkey". All SPF and Backdraft dealers in CA know this.

I suggest that you buy the "turnkey minus" from one dealer (reciept #1) and have another vendor sell you the drivetrain and install it (reciept #2).

Good luck,
Randy...

kayakjack 08-27-2009 08:51 AM
PCW,

I found this thread which addresses turnkeys/SB100. Don't know if things have changed, but looks like you need to be very careful...

http://tinyurl.com/lkq7mb

As a satisfied Superformance owner, I can recommend their cars, manufacturer support and an organized helpful owner base. I am obviously biased, but I hope you become a Superformance owner.

Jack

PCW 08-27-2009 10:01 AM
Thanks to all, I thought I heard something about complete turnkeys having issues. Ok, second question, Let's say I go with a Backdraft, no dealer in CA that I am aware of. Dealer is in TX or CT, I buy the turnkey (-) motor and trans, receipt # 1. Right next to Backdraft dealer is an install shop, who does the install of motor and trans, receipt # 2, again this is out of the state of CA. Will the 2 receipts from 2 different out of state vendors works for SB100? This same scenario is done in CA with Superformance all the time, so just wondering how they (Superformance) make it work.

Thanks,
Craig

RodKnock 08-27-2009 10:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCW (Post 978295)
Will the 2 receipts from 2 different out of state vendors works for SB100? This same scenario is done in CA with Superformance all the time, so just wondering how they (Superformance) make it work.

Thanks,
Craig
Yes, that works. The vendors have to be different, but it doesn't matter which State they're located. I bought a Kirkham from UT, purchased the engine from a CA vendor, purchased the trans from a TX vendor and then had a local Bay Area (CA) shop do the install.

Got the Bug 08-27-2009 11:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCW (Post 978295)
Thanks to all, I thought I heard something about complete turnkeys having issues. Ok, second question, Let's say I go with a Backdraft, no dealer in CA that I am aware of. Dealer is in TX or CT, I buy the turnkey (-) motor and trans, receipt # 1. Right next to Backdraft dealer is an install shop, who does the install of motor and trans, receipt # 2, again this is out of the state of CA. Will the 2 receipts from 2 different out of state vendors works for SB100? This same scenario is done in CA with Superformance all the time, so just wondering how they (Superformance) make it work.

Thanks,
Craig
As Rodney mentioned, an out of state purchase won't impact your ability to register the car. You will have to pay all sales tax (nice big check) on the roller and the engine/trans.

I bought my car from Dynamic in Reno and Full Throttle did the install. Two separate entities and separate receipts from both.

PCW 08-28-2009 03:07 PM
Thanks to all for the info. I will be as nervous as a cat in a room full of rocking chairs until I pass the SB100 :)

Craig

Paul F 08-28-2009 03:37 PM
Yes, this is the appropriate response when dealing with the gubment.

Got the Bug 08-28-2009 04:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCW (Post 978694)
Thanks to all for the info. I will be as nervous as a cat in a room full of rocking chairs until I pass the SB100 :)

Craig
The good news, is that they didn't burn through all of the SB100 numbers on the first day this year. There was something like 50 available during the first quarter of the year.


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