Help! Turkey Pan and Gasket questions
 

I'm starting to think of things to do to the car during the winter and I have a few questions that I could use some help with.

First: I've noticed that some people have, what looks to be, a type of weatherstripping around the top of their Turkey Pan (to seal it to the hood when closed). Does this really create a good seal to the hood, or is it more for looks. I have yet to find anyone that sells this "Turkey pan strip". Finish Line even shows one attached to their Turkey Pan in their catalog, but they don't sell it (not even if you buy a pan). Is this something that some folks have made on thier own, or is there a company that sells this? I'm looking at putting my Turkey Pan back on (currently off to clean) and wondered about putting some weatherstripping along the top.

Second: I have an oil leak coming from the top of my oil pan (in the rear). I've never had it off (and I'm not looking forward to it either!) but it would be a good winter project and it needs to be taken care of. Any recommendations on what gasket to use? I have a 1966 427SO and a Canton pan. I do have a windage tray so I've been told to use 2 gaskets(?). I also need to adjust the valve lash and I know there's FelPro valve cover gaskets on there now (375-1632 from Jeg's) and the FelPro's DID leak on me prior to changing them this past spring. These seem OK, but do you guys have any from another mfgr. that you like? Do you guys like Cork? Rubber?? Steel??? Silicone????

Third: I'm thinking about putting a Cobra badge on the trunk lid. Seems like most SPF's don't have the emblem on the trunk. Is there a reason for this? Perhaps the butt is too perky and it doesn't sit flat?? Anyway, what is the proper location for the rear emblem, measuring from the top of the light?

Thanks in advance for any help / suggestions !!

http://www.westernrubber.com/

Look in the extrusions. You should be able to find what you need.


Rick

Terry,
I can't help with the weather strip, but if you find out, let me know. Anyway, I have the same oil pan on my 428. You have to sandwich one gasket between the windage tray and pan and one between the top of the tray and engine block. I also sealed mine with copper gasket sealer. Removel and cleaning of the pan is not a difficult job, but it is messy. Remember clean all surfaces very well and take your time. I suggest a good sealer because mine also leaked at first in the rear of the pan before I sealed it. I used FelPro gaskets for the Pan/Windage, I forget the #'s.

:D

--Mike

Brent.....can someone take this out of the "Parts for Sale" section and put it in another forum? FE, All Cobra Talk, Shop talk... something where folks will see it and help me out! Thanks!

I view the rubber gasket or protection on the top of the turkey pan to be somewhat problematic and confusing. The reason is this. When you blip your throttle with the hood open, watch what happens to the engine and its reaction to the torque. It moves as one engine mount compresses and the other expands. And one edge of the turkey pan dips and the other edge raises up with the torque.

With the rear wheels engaged, this torque is even more pronounced. If you snug up your turkey pan close to the closed engine compartment lid you will indeed be abrading the inside bottom of the lid. What you will need will be an abrasion guard.

Thus, it is my feeling that sometimes what many think is an air gasket for the turkey pan is really an abrasion guard for the engine compartment lid.

If you want an air tight insulation for the turkey pan, you should do this with foam fabricated in such a way to make a very flexible seal which can withstand air flow at speed as well as engine movement.

Red: Very good point. I was skeptical on just how functional a piece of weatherstripping would be. I had 2 cars with cowl induction set-ups (69 Z-28 and 70 Chevelle) and the rubber fitting went right into a hole cut in the hood of the car to create a good seal. A little rubber / weatherstripping around the top of a Turkey Pan wouldn't do too much, IMO.
Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Can anyone tell me the correct placement for the rear badge?

Correct me if I am wrong (still learning).
I heard that the Turkey pan was only there to shield the carb and keep engine heat away from the carb so as to not "cook" gas in the carb and away from the engine.
It was not meant as a forced induction mechanism (although some of this was evident) It was meant as a practical application for a heat shield.

Colorado: You may be right about that. I'm trying to create a way to get some cold air into the carb area for more power and figured that was what the rubber stripping around the top of the pan was for. The Turkey Pan "as is" (with no weatherstripping) actually ROBS about 15-20 HP according to a couple engine builders I know. They have the dyno sheets to prove it.
Just trying to come up with some sort of "fix". I was hoping to hear from someone that has the weatherstripping on their pan and could shed some light on the subject.

Not sure about horsepower affects, but this is what I bought.

McMaster #8451A53 on page 3467 and it comes in sizes down to 10 feet. Thanks! http://www.mcmaster.com/

Terry, I used soft seal on my kirkham pan looks fine and no problems . e-mail me your address and i will send you pictures and a sample of the seal.. Bob...

Terry,
Here is another idea for the foam.

http://www.jegs.com//cgi-bin/ncommer...19&prmenbr=361

It is used on the Moroso air pans to seal to the hood.

Check my photo gallery, the trim on the Turkey Pan is for looks. It is actually automotive trim. Not functional on sealing the pan to the bottom of the hood.
Canton came out with some new gaskets last year and I used them with their pan and windage tray, no leaks yet. One thing I did is go back with a 1/4" drive where possible and snug the pan down again after 3 good heat cycles, used a box end where I had too. Tighten from the center out, be carefull don't over tighten each time. I also used a little silicone RTV sealant with my gaskets, Permatex high tempterature black.
Have had good luck with the FellPro rubber valve cover gaskets and no sealant. Works with the Pentroof steel valve covers, have had 3 different set on.
Emblem placement on the trunk varied , I have seen three different placements on original cars:confused:

Rick: I also have the Pentroof valve covers. All I can find in Jeg's though, are the cork-rubber FelPro's #375-1632 @ 16.99. I have yet to find an all rubber gasket for an FE, at least in Jeg's. I ordered a new Summit catalog but haven't recieved it yet. Can't find my old one (think I let a buddy borrow it....).
Thanks for the heads up on the Canton gaskets. I'll check those out. All I can find in Jeg's for an FE are the FelPro's.
Have you ever tried the sealant from Edelbrock called GASGACINCH? I thought I would give that a try unless I hear otherwise.

Try this for emblem placement. It's an ERA file from CC a few years ago.

Jack Z.

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