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A suggestion: Find a more registration friendly state; register it there and then move it to Cali later...I have found that if it was already registered in a state, then changing it is much easier.
There are companies that will go to the DMV for you and handle the titling and registration even if you are out of state. |
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However, I am officially and unofficially not aware that of anything untoward about that process that I described in my prior post. PM me if anyone wants the details. |
Go ahead and explain how a non-resident can register a vehicle, where all states that I know of require that you be a resident to do so. Waiting...
That is the Montana scheme: You create a LLC held by a third party to register the car under its name and then drive it with Montana plates. Every state considers that tax evasion and if caught, will cost you lots more than just registering it correctly to begin with. If your method involves creating a shadow corporation it's probably not legal. There are legitimate businesses that register themselves in other states, e.g., legitimate corportate headquarters for many companies are in Nevada. But the two person LLCs in Montana are not passing muster. Waiting for an explanation. Explanations not out in the open usually have issues. If it's good, let everyone know. I suppose you could buy it for a buck, register it (and pay the taxes collected from the other party) and then sell it back for a buck. |
Another question that I have that is directed more towards those Cobra owners in Kalifornia that have gone through the SB100 certification process and have received their SB100 sticker.
How much, if at all, does the BAR referee look at or even care about how much the car was purchased for? Does he interrogate the purchase price as much as he does all the build paperwork and DMV forms? Is this something that YOUR particular BAR referee looked at closely? |
If you were honest in your disclosure you should have nothing to worry about.....but I'm talking about California, I'm not aware of Kalifornia's protocols.
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So, that being said, let's go back to my original question. Is the 'alleged' purchase price of the vehicle scrutinized by the BAR referee? Will he even have knowledge of this number?
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What?
You sure you want to admit that on an international forum? Or is that a hypothetical... :eek:
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So there's the purchase price and the low balled purchase price....got it. Like I said before, if you are up front with everything it shouldn't matter who is asking you "what $$" questions.
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Let's just say someone will look at his documented, lowballed, alleged purchase price.
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Backdraft Cobra California Reg
Can anyone help that has been through CA reg for a Backdraft or Superformance in the past 6 months. I ordered a Backdraft in December (still being constructed) and now am being told there is a roadblock at the level of Sacramento because it is "too complete / turn-key" and they are not allowing the process to move forward due to new personnel in the CARB office. These are rolling-chassis kits, I am having the motor and trans dropped in by another shop.
Somehow a Factory Five which the hobbyist puts together is somehow different than having Backdraft construct one. This is a potentially devastating impasse for me which could shatter my childhood dreams. On the DMV website it indicates that specially constructed vehicles (SPCNS) "are not constructed by a licensed manufacturer or remanufacturer. If assembled by someone other than the owner, a manuf. certificate for a complete vehicle is not acceptable proof of ownership for a SPCNS." They do say, however, "All documents will be thoroughly reviewed. If they show that the same company constructed, delivered, and issue major supporting invoices the vehicle may not qualify for an SPCNs certificate or sequence, However the vehicle may be registered as SPCNs with smog requirements." I was able to speak a BAR referee and he verified there has been a problem in the last 6mo with these cars. I also was able to get an email from CARB saying, "If by SB100 you are referring to Special Construction Registrations, those are given to vehicles that are made by owners from the ground up. When you are granted a Special Construction Registration from the DMV, it is given in place of an emissions label. There is no certification completed by CARB as the vehicle has been constructed by a hobbyist. You will need to contact DMV directly to determine what the requirements are or what the process is for applying for one." At this point Backraft has $5k deposit but I am obviously hesitant to purchase the car if I cant get it registered. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks |
Who did you place the order with and what shop is doing the engine/tranny install?
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Backdraft racing. They work with a speed shop in Florida who installs all their drivetrains
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So was it Backdraft in Florida who told you about potential problems registering your car in California?
Since the passage of SB100 in 2001 hundreds of cars have been registered in California under the SPCNS requirements enforced by the DMV, BAR, CHP and brake & light inspectors. You should have nothing to do with CARB. They are extremely diligent in their pursuit of ever cleaner air and represent a threat to continued registration of cars like BDRs. |
"This is a potentially devastating impasse for me which could shatter my childhood dreams. "
Welcome to CA, all they care about is your $$ they dont care about anything other than that. That being said As long as Backdraft does not supply you the car "turn key" you should be OK, however you may want to simply make an appointment at the DMV and ask them, get the persons name you spoke with along with DETAILED instructions. I would take it a step further and get a supervisor in SAC to confirm, don't trust a counter person as they are DMV employees and historically horrible to deal with... The key is "turn key" as long as you install the drive train you should be OK under SB100 |
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