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RodKnock 10-07-2009 10:33 AM
I always remember a line from he old X-files TV show. It's one of the guiding principles of my life.

No, it's not the "Trust no one" line, but the "Nothing disappears without a trace."

patrickt 10-07-2009 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 991114)
The sales receipt from the dealer will in all likelihood state 5,500 miles. What now?
Uhh, suppose he drove it from the home state all the way to CA. Seems like the odometer would read, what, about 8,000? :rolleyes:

RodKnock 10-07-2009 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 991118)
Uhh, suppose he drove it from the home state all the way to CA. Seems like the odometer would read, what, about 8,000? :rolleyes:
From the CA DMV website: "If you acquire a new vehicle from another state, you may not subsequently drive it to accumulate over 7,500 miles to circumvent the law."

patrickt 10-07-2009 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 991121)
From the CA DMV website: "If you acquire a new vehicle from another state, you may not subsequently drive it to accumulate over 7,500 miles to circumvent the law."
He didn't; his wife did the driving. He was merely a passenger.;)

RodKnock 10-07-2009 10:41 AM
By definition, according to the CA DMV, ALL cars with less than 7,500 miles are considered new, regardless if its been registered before.

patrickt 10-07-2009 10:42 AM
I don't even like to visit California. I avoid it whenever I can; kind of like Newark.:cool:

RodKnock 10-07-2009 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 991126)
I don't even like to visit California. I avoid it whenever I can; kind of like Newark.:cool:
Yes, you've hit upon it. The difficulties in registering a Cobra is listed as one of the top reasons people don't want to move to or visit California. :p

patrickt 10-07-2009 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 991127)
Yes, you've hit upon it. The difficulties in registering a Cobra is listed as one of the top reasons people don't want to move to or visit California. :p
It seems though if you just jump through their hoops it all works out. Unlike a couple of other states that Cashburn and I were discussing a couple of weeks back. It was one of the New England states, and I can't remember now, but it was absolutely ridiculous what you had to do there. It made California look like a cake walk.

RodKnock 10-07-2009 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 991129)
It seems though if you just jump through their hoops it all works out. Unlike a couple of other states that Cashburn and I were discussing a couple of weeks back. It was one of the New England states, and I can't remember now, but it was absolutely ridiculous what you had to do there. It made California look like a cake walk.
The SB 100 process, while somewhat time consuming, although not too bad at all, isn't all that difficult. I know "xlr8or" will be doing it again with his FFR Coupe and I may do it again someday, assuming it's still available. Tony Ripepi has done it at least once, maybe twice with his GT40 and CSX, and will be doing it again with his next build. Same thing with Howard Jones and a bunch of other guys around here.

Now the registering of a out-of-state vehicle with less than 7,500 miles presents some issues.

Gunner 10-07-2009 11:13 AM
I'll just work it through, honest all the way. I may regret not knowing some seekret trik at some point, but when dealing with the IRS, the mob and DMV it's best to be straight about it.

There must be many SCVs that are sold with minimal mileage. I can't believe that the 7500 mark is a barrier for this situation, not if SB-100 is the goal. I may (painfully) find out differently.

Gunner 10-07-2009 11:15 AM
So: anyone have any recommendations as to which Sacramento-area office is best to deal with on this? Roseville? Carmichael?

RodKnock 10-07-2009 11:39 AM
A quick search and the Folsom office looks good, but don't go to Roseville:

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/show...som+dmv&page=2

Gunner 10-07-2009 12:07 PM
Good thread, including a firm statement about prior registration being okay. Thanks. I'll see if Folsom is a better bet than Carmichael.

decooney 10-07-2009 12:07 PM
Bummer!
 
I just contacted a source internal at DMV just for grins. As verified with the Dept. Supervisor, as many of you already noted - 5 years ago they did stop allowing the 0000 year model classification which allowed a SPCNS + passing smog cert to get you through registration. The reply above is correct, you can no longer take this route. Bummer!

This is another step in the wrong direction for many car builders becasue now we have folks taking up SPCNS sequence numbers (unnecessarily) with some cars that can actually pass smog based on year engine/specs.

Since I had them on the phone at Headquarters, I made darn sure to point it out some of the language on their website still does NOT accurately reflect internal code/rule books with regard to SPCNS and and smog certifiction by year/make of engine, etc. We went round and round on it and the deciding factor was they had to go to a different source of (different internal book) information on the specific rules/guidelines now in effect by DMV. Hopefully the SB1578 process still works too.

Get a copy of that original MSO, receipts, anything you can!

Let us know how it goes, Gunner.

decooney 10-07-2009 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 991154)
A quick search and the Folsom office looks good, but don't go to Roseville:

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/show...som+dmv&page=2

Gunner,
If that does not work, there is another location. I went through Folsom and a few friends through Roseville too with some difficult situations and all got through it. Try Folsom first, and if Folsom fails for you, send me a PM. The former Supv. many of us use to work with more regularly transferred to another location not too far away. DC

RodKnock 10-07-2009 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunner (Post 991165)
Good thread, including a firm statement about prior registration being okay. Thanks. I'll see if Folsom is a better bet than Carmichael.
Gunner, there are A LOT of good threads on the Forum. Use different search words too.

jhv48 10-07-2009 03:54 PM
Since you already have the car in your posession, why not just pack a lunch and head to your local DMV and find out what you're supposed to do in order to get it registered as an SPCNS with a TOP until you can get the SB100 exemption..

Leave the car at home in case they want to see how many miles are on the clock. Tell them you drove it cross country in case the title has less than the required number of miles. You can "fix" that problem later if it crops up.

Then do what they say to do. If the mileage becomes a problem, you can always run the miles up or replace the speedo with one from another cobra that has more miles than yours. They're not going to drive it, so it doesn't have to be hooked up. There is a solution to every problem.

If you run into a major hurdle, take all your paperwork with you, then go home and address it and then don't return to the same DMV once it is remedied. Go to another one and start all over.

patrickt 10-07-2009 03:58 PM
I like the way Jim thinks. Friggin' brilliant, he is.;)

RodKnock 10-07-2009 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 991277)
I like the way Jim thinks. Friggin' brilliant, he is.;)
All "criminals" think alike and chummy up together. :LOL:

patrickt 10-07-2009 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 991286)
All "criminals" think alike and chummy up together. :LOL:
The law is a seamless web with but a thousand shades of gray.


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