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cobrafx 09-23-2012 06:16 PM
cnc/sb build help
 
Hello all. I think the engine is mounted too far forward. It was ordered setup for a SB Ford and has slotted motors mounts to frame. There are two pre drilled holes in the frame rails. The mounts are bolted currently using the rear most holes. I have yet to drill the remaining two holes as I believe the engine needs to go back. The 351C that is in it, locates the oil filter VERY close to the gusset for the strut arm. I dont think the filter would come off. If the frame mounts are mounted with the forward holes, I believe the two rear exhaust tubes would have to travel radically forward before exiting the side. How are your frame mounts positioned? Thanks
Jaime

I pulled the engine and trans before getting a pic. I can get some of just the frame and mounts........

tcrist 09-23-2012 07:21 PM
What I did with mine is loosely bolt the engine in where I thought it should be, mount the headers and side pipes. For mine the side pipe has a particular location to mount to near the rear wheels. Now I am unsure how yours is and if you are using side pipes or not, this is just how I did mine.

As for the oil filter, you can use a short, half quart filter or use a remote one. I chose a remote filter setup.

Hope this helps.

YerDugliness 09-23-2012 07:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cobrafx (Post 1212257)
The 351C that is in it, locates the oil filter VERY close to the gusset for the strut arm. I dont think the filter would come off.
I had the same problem with a 351C I shoehorned into a Mercury Comet (essentially the same car as the Ford Maverick).

I went with the remote oil filter on the inner fenderwell, but used a second filter, an Oberg "sandwich" type filter, downstream from the cannister type for better filtering efficiency.

In over 10,000 miles, not once did I have to even clean the filter screen on the Oberg...the cannister did a very good job. I used Wix filters, they have a very good reputation here in the U.S.

Cheers!

Dugly :cool:

cobrafx 09-23-2012 07:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcrist (Post 1212262)
What I did with mine is loosely bolt the engine in where I thought it should be, mount the headers and side pipes. For mine the side pipe has a particular location to mount to near the rear wheels. Now I am unsure how yours is and if you are using side pipes or not, this is just how I did mine.

As for the oil filter, you can use a short, half quart filter or use a remote one. I chose a remote filter setup.

Hope this helps.
I dont have pipes, I get to make them. If there was some ready made for a 351C that would be cool. Does yours have the oil filter located similarly? Does yours have the Mustang 2 front end also? I will try to put a pic on here showing how high the engine sits.

edit: Rats, thought I had a pic but I didnt. The rear of the engine is VERY easily 8 inches ahead of the firewall and the valve covers can not be an inch below the level of the hood opening.

cobrafx 09-23-2012 07:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YerDugliness (Post 1212263)
I had the same problem with a 351C I shoehorned into a Mercury Comet (essentially the same car as the Ford Maverick).

I went with the remote oil filter on the inner fenderwell, but used a second filter, an Oberg "sandwich" type filter, downstream from the cannister type for better filtering efficiency.

In over 10,000 miles, not once did I have to even clean the filter screen on the Oberg...the cannister did a very good job. I used Wix filters, they have a very good reputation here in the U.S.

Cheers!

Dugly :cool:
Cool, yeah I use WIX too.

PANAVIA 09-23-2012 07:53 PM
Sounds like you have your work cut out for you - pics would help us see your challenges !

cobrafx 09-23-2012 08:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PANAVIA (Post 1212269)
Sounds like you have your work cut out for you - pics would help us see your challenges !
oh yeah, there WILL be pics!
Jaime

tcrist 09-23-2012 08:18 PM
Mine does have the mustang II front end. Id you click the camera icon under my user name there should be a few pictures there the might help.

YerDugliness 09-24-2012 08:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcrist (Post 1212262)
As for the oil filter, you can use a short, half quart filter or use a remote one.
My Cobra replica has the same clearance issue as you mentioned. At first I was using a short version of the Fram PH8, IIRC it was a PH43, if you are comfortable with Fram filters you might be able to get by with that one as it did clear. However, I wanted a better filter, so I had my local auto parts store cross over the PH43 and they came up with some options. I chose the K&N for the high efficiency filter rating (the same as the newer cars that use full synthetic oil use, I think it was 99%+ capture rating). Here are some photos, you can see how close the K&N is to the frame:

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...psc2609d78.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps65508ff3.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...psa663d50e.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps945d29a0.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...psf62dea70.jpg

Your 351C will be able to use the same filter.

Cheers, hope you get this sorted! If you have the time and $$, the remote filter option really IS the best one...when I do that, I will use the high efficiency filter on the fenderwell and the Oberg sandwich type filter with the finest screen available right at the entrance to the oil cooler.

Dugly :cool:

cobrafx 09-24-2012 05:59 PM
Thanks for the pics! I do not believe yours is the same as mine. Or, as I suspect, the engine is in the wrong location. I posted pics in my original "here we go" thread of the engine compartment and the location of the right motor frame mount.
Jaime


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