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ColoradoCobras. 12-30-2003 12:21 PM

Webers converted to Fuel Injection
 
PICTURES ARE POSTED!! SEE BELOW! Thanx Ben!
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Dick Miller from Kansas brought his car to us in Denver to modify his Weber carb set-up. He didn't want to use the complete Momar EFI system. Even though they are billeted to simulate Webers, Dick wanted his Webers modified.
We retained the Webers as only an air control by way of existing Butterfly Valves. One carb was equiped with a Throttle Positioning Sensor.
The manifold was modified to accept fuel injectors directly into the manifold under each carb body.
A fuel block was postioned at the back of the engine to run fuel lines cleanly between the Carbs, hugging the manifold.
The manifold was further modified to accept a vaccuum sensor and vaccuum lines hidden under the manifold.
An Ambient Temperature sensor was installed, as well as Coolant Temp Sensor and an O2 sensor in one side pipe. A Haltech F10 system has been wired in to handle fuel maintanence.

Since this is an R&D effort it has taken much longer than we anticipated. A first time modification that will enable any Weber Carb car owner to stand OUTSIDE the car, lean in and start it!
No pedal pumping, no long warm ups! And no synching Carbs!

We have had Dick's car for 2 months. He has been very understanding and very patient. When machining and wire harnesses are produced and fabricated under someone else's time table, it takes a looooonnnngggg time! We are close to firing up the results and will be able to do this to other Weber owners.

Regards,
Don "the office dude" and Cobra Rookie

KobraKarl 12-30-2003 09:25 PM

Don,

What do you expect to see on the performance side of this conversion...I like the idea .

KK

btsai 12-30-2003 10:20 PM

Don -- if you want help re-sizing the photos and/or posting them, I'll be happy to help. Just e-mail me. (Would love to see the details...!)

Ben

ColoradoCobras. 12-31-2003 07:43 AM

KobraKarl.
Our normal Momar Fuel Injection System gives us an average gain of 45-50 Horsepower over normal carburation.
But this is not a Momar system. This is a set of Webers modified, so therefore we are not sure of actual HP gains.

The owner is more interested in getting away from dialing four carbs as he changes altitudes from Kansas to Coloardo etc..

We don't have a Dyno yet, so we can't do before or afters...yet!
Dyno in 2004 though!

BTSAI, I will send you pictures so you can post these for everybody.

Regards,
Don "the office guy" S & S Automotive aka ColoradoCobras.com

btsai 01-02-2004 09:20 PM

[Posting these photos on behalf of Don/Chris. Chris -- two of them wouldn't come through as attached files -- they were embedded somehow that i couldn't work with... Ben]

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Chuck Nickloy 01-04-2004 07:05 PM

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Hey, I have a shot of Miller trying to do the former adjusting. You guys are doing us a favor. We won't have to view this anymore!

Hope everything works out Great. Dick has had fits working with those webers!!

Chuck


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