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Zoom This 05-04-2006 10:32 AM

Cleveland or a Modified??
 
The block has a casting number of 2EAE-CA. Heads have M up on the corner 8 bolt covers. What do you think I have....Cleveland or modified?? Cleveland block?? with modified heads?? I cannot find this casting number anywhere. Help!

1972-1982??

COBRA406 05-04-2006 01:03 PM

Was the number you gave located on the timing cover or on the passenger rear
side of the block under the head? Never seen a casting number on the
blocks like this one. As you probably know Clevelands were only made for
4 years from 69-73. 351M/400 production started with the 400 in 71. The
351M from 75 on. Basically same heads (2V) on all of them. 4V heads unique
to Clevelands. M blocks have 429/460 bellhousing pattern, Clevelands pattern
same as W motors. M blocks taller and wider than the Cleveland but share most components except intakes, crank, rods and pistons. I'll dig into my
manuals if you need to know exactly.

mach-1-72 05-04-2006 03:40 PM

i was thinking about making my cleveland into a stroker is this possible. And if ti is can someone please tell me what kind of heads and set up should i go with, right to me i really don't know how to use this sit so i probably won't find this page again, but if ican get some feedback that would be great.

Zoom This 05-04-2006 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COBRA406
Was the number you gave located on the timing cover or on the passenger rear
side of the block under the head? Never seen a casting number on the
blocks like this one. As you probably know Clevelands were only made for
4 years from 69-73. 351M/400 production started with the 400 in 71. The
351M from 75 on. Basically same heads (2V) on all of them. 4V heads unique
to Clevelands. M blocks have 429/460 bellhousing pattern, Clevelands pattern
same as W motors. M blocks taller and wider than the Cleveland but share most components except intakes, crank, rods and pistons. I'll dig into my
manuals if you need to know exactly.

The number was located on the block just behind the starter.

sllib 05-04-2006 04:19 PM

Mach-1;
There's a book titled "How to build big inch small block Fords" that should give you a good idea what's available to stroke your Cleveland. I got my copy from Amazon.
Bill Stradtner

Woodz428 05-04-2006 04:59 PM

Visually, the easiest way to tell the difference between a Cleveland and a 400/351M is the bell housing. The 400/351M has a 460 pattern and the Cleveland is small block (unless it is one of the very early 400s that came with a small block pattern, I have only seen one that wasn't cracked in the lifter area so it's probably not)

COBRA406 05-04-2006 05:42 PM

Zoom,
If your number is D2AE-CA or E2AE-CA instead of 2EAE-CA then that
would designate your 72 or 82 year block. The early MCC (Michigan
Casting Center) blocks are prone to cracking in the lifter valley area as
previously noted, M blocks primarily. Good machinable Cleveland blocks,
(.030 over is generally max for performance engines) are becoming hard
to find. M blocks can be a decent performance bargain build, 400 only,
but lack of performance parts make this challenging. No decent intakes
are avail for 400s but spacer plates can be used with good Cleveland
intakes to make them run. Aftermarkets in both US and Australia are
now beginning to expand for these 335 series engines. They still can
make a ton of HP with those giant valve heads if a person knows what
they are doing. Aluminum heads are now avail from Edelbrock and from
Australia from CHI and AFD. Jon Kaase had a 408c win the Engine
Masters Challenge last year and smoked most of the other BBs.
THis engine has its minuses but they can rev and make tons of HP when
built properly. Not everyones cup of tea, though.
Bob T.

67EXP350 05-05-2006 08:45 AM

Zoom, I went home and pulled the starter. this time I put on glasses and itd D2AE-CA. The Heads are M in the upper left hand corner.

So>> I am assuming this is a 72 block (cleveland) with M heads. All in a 70 Mach 1 with a FMX trans.

Mach 1-72 This Motor is a screamer with a lot of torque. 355 rear end and this motor traps you to the back of your seat. The person I bought it from did not have the build sheet for it as he was told it was stroked.

Good old boys in the south Build stroker Clevelands and are sold on ebay good luck. Thanks Zoom for the help and getting me started here on the site.


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