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Total timing is 46 degrees?!?!?
Hello guys I am new here , nice to meet you all I have a cobra body I purchased from someone I will leave un-named down in florida
I built a tube chasssis and have a mild 302 (stock)with tremec 5 speed and jag rear. My problem is I set the initial timing at 6-8 and at 2500 rpm I have total and it's 46 degrees????? no ping but ??? Is my timing light broken why don't I have holes in my pistons, way too rich also?? HELP Mick in Omaha |
EFI or carb? Is it a vacuum advance?
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I'd recurve the dist. It would probably be better with 12-16 fegrees initial and about 38 total. That would be a nice starting place. 46 is too much. you may noy have any ping for a number of reasons...long overlap cam, low compression...or you may not be hearing it over the exhaust. It will also depend on how quick it comes in, but I think 46 is too much regardless of when it comes in.
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Thanks
I have a carb and vacuum advance, edelbrock performer with dual plane manifold. It likes when the timing is around 12-16 initial.
shouldn't timing come in gradually? , I think the springs are wore out or just too soft cause it is maxs out (total timing)by 2700 rpm I would think you want it to come in graduallly and be at total at around 3500 rpm , am I correct? |
The operative thing here is the vacuum advance. It must be disconnected while you measure advance.
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That's what I was trying to get at about the vacuum advance....I knew there was a connection, but I've never messed with vacuum advance distributors....all the ones I've had were mechanical.
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Disconnect vacuum advance while measuring total
I am sure this is how I measured it with the vacuum advanced disconnected and the port on the carb plugged. **)
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Sounds like you just need to change springs. I didn't know they made any that advanced around 30 degrees...
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How 30 degrees is possible
The little arms (not sure of technical term) have a number stamped on them like 13L or 15L or 18L this is the amount of advance each will add
ie: both are 13L then you will get 26 degrees. of course mine are not ledgable. Anyone have ideas were you can buy distributor parts? Mick |
Mick,
What brand distrbutor do you have ? I think you are missing the bushing that determines the maximum amount of centrifigul advance. The springs & weights deal with the rate of advance,not total. |
Type Distributor
I have a stock 302 with the stock distributor with a vacuum advance the tag on it says
4K 23 E5ZE 12127 BA any info on this appreciated Mick |
I would bypass the vacuum can and cap it and the vacuum fitting and run the initial and see what it is total then. From the # in the dist. I am guessing that you may have been tapped into ported instead of manifold vacuum.
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I shall return
I will double check total timing and get back to you all
I am quite certain I checked it correctly but you never know. Thank you all very much I will post my results Mick |
Before adjusting, be certain that your timing marks are valid.
i.e. TDC #1 is 0° on the marks. |
TDC = zero
Good Call I double check that as well.
Thanks to all Mick |
Thanks guys . Initial is 16 at idle and at 3500 rpm it is 36 degrees thank you for your help I think I was doing something wrong , I could not duplicate earlier results but thats ok it is dead on now, thanks again to all of you
Mick in Omaha |
Timing
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Go to http://www.reincarnation-automotive....ons_index.html. There is all the information you need for a duraspark dist. Good luck
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16 Initial and 36 total
Thanks Guys for all your help.
She now purrs like a sick kat Mick |
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