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bmcnicho 06-07-2009 09:15 AM

M-6010-N351 w/ Hydraulic Roller Cams
 
I purchased a M-6010-N351 block from ford racing and was planning on putting in a hydraulic roller cam. The block does not have penetrations in the lifter valley to attach the lifter guide plate. Is the guide plate needed, or do I have to machine additional holes in the block to attach the lifter guide plate?

olddog 06-07-2009 09:35 AM

To use the OEM style roller lifters you have to machine the block. I think it is a pretty simple thing that most any shop can do. I don't think is is too costly.

PANAVIA 06-07-2009 03:53 PM

use the spider as a template and use 1/4-20 bolts - no biggie.

Double check dog-bone/fork alignment for each pair of lifters. you may have to do some minor clearance work. --again no biggie.

bobcowan 06-08-2009 07:17 AM

Or, you could use a link bar lifter. If the engine is already assembled, you probably don't want to be drilling and grinding on it. A lot more expensive, though.

DAVID GAGNARD 06-08-2009 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobcowan (Post 956139)
Or, you could use a link bar lifter. If the engine is already assembled, you probably don't want to be drilling and grinding on it. A lot more expensive, though.


I just use the link-bar lifters,too easy, did it on my last 2 motors.........(even a cave man can do it):LOL::LOL:;);)

David

bmcnicho 06-09-2009 09:06 AM

Which do you suggest?
 
I see the Ford Racing M-6500-S58 and the COMP Cams 8931-16. Which do you suggest, or is there another you prefer?

blykins 06-09-2009 10:01 AM

Edit...I thought you were showing the lifter spider.

I wouldn't spend $400-500 on lifters guys. You can get the OEM lifters for $120 + $40 for the spider. It literally takes 30 minutes to drill/tap the bolts for the spider.

BTW, don't drill a thru hole....you'll be drilling into a cam bearing/cam bearing journal.

PANAVIA 06-19-2009 01:20 AM

i would go stock as well. -- the bumps for the spider should be there in the N351--

mikeforte 06-19-2009 05:11 AM

Hi,
I stock link bar lifters from Comp Cams & Ford.

mikeforte 06-19-2009 10:02 AM

Hi,
The Comp Cams 8931-16 roller conversion kit I want to sell for $450.00.
Summit has them @ $529.95
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-8931-16/

bmcnicho 06-19-2009 12:21 PM

I am trying making the spider work
 
I was surprised, but the B50 & B58 blocks (Amateur Competition) do have provisions for the spider, but the M&N351 (Professional Competition) do not (go figure). I didn't realize it until the short block was assembled. We had to grind down some raised lettering in the lifter valley and hand drill holes to accept the screws for the spider. The holes still aren't tapped since our tap & dye kit tapers down, so at the current depth of the hole the tool bottoms out in the hole before it removes material for the threads. I am a bit scared to just drill deeper because I don't want to end up making a through hole in the block. I am considering grinding down the tapered end of the tap & dye so it is more square and will remove material for the threads sooner.

bobcowan 06-19-2009 01:59 PM

spend $10 and get a bottom tap. You'll get much better results, and won't ruin your standard tap.


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