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Mark IV 11-14-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1326054)
And an SPF GT40 is legally a GT40.

GM is not making the GS Corvette is it? Does GM have a plant in South Africa?

I smell one of those threads about real versus replica. :LOL:

Why yes, GM DOES have several plants in South Africa! They don't build Corvettes 'though. And yes, the "legal" thing IS a marketing thing but then so is a Cobra built in Poland :D

If it's not a hologram, it is "REAL"....... it just isn't "original"..........................

rodneym 11-14-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark IV (Post 1326049)
Uh, did you not see my post "none have been delivered, yet"?........It is LEGALLY a "CORVETTE"!

I tell ya, I get no respect. :CRY:

Legal? Will ol' Duntov sign the dash? :LOL:

RodKnock 11-14-2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark IV (Post 1326057)
Why yes, GM DOES have several plants in South Africa! They don't build Corvettes 'though. And yes, the "legal" thing IS a marketing thing but then so is a Cobra built in Poland :D

If it's not a hologram, it is "REAL"....... it just isn't "original"..........................

Actually, Kirkham doesn't refer to its car as a Cobra. The SAAC Registry does. But I digress.

We'll have to ask Evan about "real" versus "original." :LOL:

rodneym 11-14-2014 12:35 PM

Shall we place odds on whether the Corvette crowd will poo-poo these fakey doos?

*hat in hand*
My apologies to the OP and subject. It looks like an awesome car. It just may be interesting when a 'licensed Corvette' hits the Corvette crowd.

Mark IV 11-14-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1326061)
Shall we place odds on whether the Corvette crowd will poo-poo these fakey doos?

Of course they will! Just show up at Bloomington and see how warm a welcome you get!

We ALL drive "fakey-doos" unless they came from Thames Ditton or in the case of the 'Vette, Saint Louis.

NewYorkGuy 11-14-2014 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rodneym (Post 1326048)
Has one hit the streets yet?
I was in line at the DMV for SB100 on Jan 4, 2010, with a guy who was also doing SB100 for the first Grand Sport! Not sure how he was doing it w/o the car, but that's what he and the dealer employee said.
%/

doesn't take 4 years to redesign a replica car. truthfully, there was ongoing GM lawsuit against superformance and Mongoose.

$100K superformance versus $70K Mongoose roller. Same car except Mongoose is made in USA

all 3 companies, Duntov (they still make street versions), Superformance, Mongoose, are "official GM" vendors.

Mark IV 11-14-2014 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy (Post 1326080)
doesn't take 4 years to redesign a replica car. truthfully, there was ongoing GM lawsuit against superformance and Mongoose.

$100K superformance versus $70K Mongoose roller. Same car except Mongoose is made in USA

No, it does NOT take 4 years to redesign a replica, it takes as long as it takes to make it right!

Superformance was "truthfully" NOT part of the Mongoose lawsuit. Superformance has been licensed by GM since 2009 and has never been sued by GM.

A prototype/proof of concept was built and shown in 2010. The decision was then to go forward and revise the chassis and interior. That has been an ongoing project at the factory that was not top priority so it has taken longer than you might have expected.

No, the "Mongoose" car is NOT the same as the Superformance. Obviously the exteriors look the same, the are Grand Sport replicas after all.

How long does it take a Leaf to purchase a Cobra, oh, wait, never mind...................

madmaxx 11-14-2014 04:24 PM

No, the first I bought brand new and sold to a guy in CA. The second bought off ebay and sold to a guy in CA, third I bought off Cobra Country the next owner still has it.





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Originally Posted by AL427SBF (Post 1326032)
Oh! - and I buy mine used from foreclosure sales and my buds flipped theirs with a prefab shed and kwik-lift included.

... sometimes statements such as above need qualifiers :LOL:
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madmaxx 11-14-2014 04:29 PM

I have a suspicion the SPF replica will have less rattles, better road manners, faster, better braking than any mid 60 corvette. I see it no different than a restomod.

Mark IV 11-14-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy (Post 1326080)
doesn't take 4 years to redesign a replica car. truthfully, there was ongoing GM lawsuit against superformance and Mongoose.

$100K superformance versus $70K Mongoose roller. Same car except Mongoose is made in USA

No, it does NOT take 4 years to redesign a replica, it takes as long as it takes to make it right!

Superformance was "truthfully" NOT part of the Mongoose lawsuit. Superformance has been licensed by GM since 2009 and has never been sued by GM.

A prototype/proof of concept was built and shown in 2010. The decision was then to go forward and revise the chassis and interior. That has been an ongoing project at the factory that was not top priority so it has taken longer than you might have expected.

No, the "Mongoose" car is NOT the same as the Superformance. Obviously the exteriors look the same, the are Grand Sport replicas after all.

How long does it take a Leaf to purchase a Cobra, oh, wait, never mind...................

RodKnock 11-14-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark IV (Post 1326094)
No, it does NOT take 4 years to redesign a replica, it takes as long as it takes to make it right!

Superformance was "truthfully" NOT part of the Mongoose lawsuit. Superformance has been licensed by GM since 2009 and has never been sued by GM.

A prototype/proof of concept was built and shown in 2010. The decision was then to go forward and revise the chassis and interior. That has been an ongoing project at the factory that was not top priority so it has taken longer than you might have expected.

No, the "Mongoose" car is NOT the same as the Superformance. Obviously the exteriors look the same, the are Grand Sport replicas after all.

How long does it take a Leaf to purchase a Cobra, oh, wait, never mind...................

We heard you the first time. :LOL:

Tommy 11-14-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by madmaxx (Post 1326091)
I see it no different than a restomod.

I think I agree. I'm reminded of the failed attempt to make Eleanor Mustangs - copies of a particularly popular custom car rather than copies of the original that was customized. ... BTW, I have no problem with these Grand Sport replicas. I'm curious to see how many people will want what amounts to a replica of a street legal replica of a non-streetable race car. If I was good at predicting such things, I'd be a lot richer than I am.

Mark IV 11-14-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1326097)
We heard you the first time. :LOL:

Yeah, OK...dang this computer stuff!:eek:

cycleguy55 11-14-2014 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark IV (Post 1326062)
We ALL drive "fakey-doos" unless they came from Thames Ditton or in the case of the 'Vette, Saint Louis.

I thought Corvettes were built in Bowling Green, Kentucky.

Bowling Green Assembly Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tommy 11-14-2014 07:33 PM

cycleguy55,
From the paragraph on History:
"The first 300 Corvettes were hand built at a plant in Flint, Michigan in 1953. Production was moved the next year to a facility in St. Louis, Missouri and then finally ended up in 1981 at the Bowling Green Assembly Plant."

As the Grand Sport in discussion was from the mid-60s, St. Louis was the correct reference.

buddyg 11-16-2014 04:14 PM

These are awesome cars and if I win the lottery I might add one to my impressive collection. (The one I would have after winning the lottery)

Kemac 01-23-2015 12:11 AM

I see where the first Grand Sport customer car was delivered at BJ last week. Looked nice in pictures. Looked like the LS engine had trips instead of a efi or Weber setup. ----- Ken

Kemac 02-14-2015 06:50 PM

I wonder if they will have one at the Kit Car and Import show at Carlisle this year ? The pictures I have seen so far have a number of changes from the originals in trim , lighting and interior layout gauges etc. I've had a D&D GS for 8 years now. Saw three of the originals back in 1964 after the Nassau race and almost bought the Wintersteen chassis 002 roadster back in 1967. So I am very familiar with the originals. If Duntov had his way back then we would have had 125 Grand Sports running around instead of the 5 that escaped. As originally built they were more street worthy than they ended up after a number of modifications. I built a Comtemporary Cobra back in the mid 80's and enjoyed that for about 8 years. The GS feels similar to the Cobra with abit more driver comfort mainly leg room..
--------------- Ken


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